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Subject: Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)
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sorry i was wrong /etc/rc.d/defaultroute use sleep to wait for dhclient 
only.

On Tue, 19 Jun 2012, Garrett Cooper wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 10:51 AM, Wojciech Puchar
> <wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> wrote:
>>>> grep sleep /etc/rc.d/* usr/local/etc/rc.d/*
>>>
>>> Sleeps in /etc tend to be there for good reasons, and new ones are
>>> vigorously scrutinized. If you see any that you think are dubious, feel
>>> free to mention them on freebsd-rc@.
>>
>> I don't say they are not needed but that they exist.
>> anyway i don't understand sleep 1 after setting default route.
>
>    Probably working around annoying races in the driver / network /
> routing stack. Please see my previous reply.
> Thanks,
> -Garrett
>