From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 18 12:55:33 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B9237B401 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fubar.adept.org (fubar.adept.org [63.147.172.249]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8CF3943F3F for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:55:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mike@adept.org) Received: by fubar.adept.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 71C151524D; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fubar.adept.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6DE7B15247 for ; Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:55:32 -0700 (PDT) Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 12:55:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Mike Hoskins To: stable@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <200307161941.h6GJfoI4093997@apollo.backplane.com> Message-ID: <20030718123048.U97693@fubar.adept.org> References: <200307161941.h6GJfoI4093997@apollo.backplane.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Subject: Re: Announcing DragonFly BSD! X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2003 19:55:33 -0000 On Wed, 16 Jul 2003, Matthew Dillon wrote: > Announcing DragonFly BSD! > http://www.dragonflybsd.org/ I will certainly track the progress with interest! I will have to finish browsing the site before forming any real opinion... It seems you have some very good goals, but why not just work to make FreeBSD (which I'd think has more visibility, and hence a chance of benefitting more people) better? :) I will admit, I can see how it could be easier to just start your own project from scratch, but I can also see downsides. Hopefully, as others mentioned, the insight you gain can be back ported to *BSD and/or other existing OSes as well. > Hello everyone! For the last few months I have been investigating > and then working on a new approach to the BSD kernel. This has snowballed > into a far more ambitious project which is now ready for wider > participation. This is my primary concern... If the ideas for improving the kernel, vm system, etc. are desireable... Why can't they be successfully implemented in the existing codebase? Was there significant resistance within the project, or did the new methodologies simply encompass too much destabalizing (at first) code change? > ftp. This proving work involved implementing much of the earlier UP->SMP > converstion work that was done when 5.x first branched, but under an > entirely new mutex-free light weight kernel threading infrastructure. > It includes the LWKT system, interrupt threads, and pure threads for > system processes amoung other things. Mmm. > Hopefully my T1 can handle the cvsup load. Eventually I'll colocate > some boxes to deal with that issue. I'm sure you will have no difficulty finding mirrors, should the need arise. Good luck, -mrh -- From: "Spam Catcher" To: spam-catcher@adept.org Do NOT send email to the address listed above or you will be added to a blacklist!