Date: Mon, 1 Sep 2014 20:14:22 -0700 From: yaneurabeya@gmail.com To: Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> Cc: pkg@freebsd.org, Baptiste Daroussin <bapt@freebsd.org>, FreeBSD Current <current@freebsd.org>, stable@freebsd.org, ports@freebsd.org, Michelle Sullivan <michelle@sorbs.net>, "Sam Fourman Jr." <sfourman@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [HEADSUP] pkg(8) is now the only package management tool Message-ID: <8E432427-B3A8-4BF7-B54F-DE9B8CA268DC@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu> References: <20140901195520.GB77917@ivaldir.etoilebsd.net> <54050D07.4010404@sorbs.net> <CAOFF%2BZ1MOr9-rYbwHYWqBKjMvRPwUnew4jThEoJ_WkoTmwyNsQ@mail.gmail.com> <540522A3.9050506@sorbs.net> <54052891.5000104@my.hennepintech.edu> <54052B1D.3040607@sorbs.net> <54053363.2030606@my.hennepintech.edu>
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--Apple-Mail=_69E864F1-60BD-4D0B-BB04-34706E4AE5F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On Sep 1, 2014, at 20:02, Andrew Berg <aberg010@my.hennepintech.edu> = wrote: > On 2014.09.01 21:27, Michelle Sullivan wrote: >> Actually it's an inconvenience for someone like me and you. Not for >> many freebsd users, and certainly not for me 6 months ago if I hadn't >> been writing my own ports.... oh and what was it, 1.3.6 -> 1.3.7? = broke >> shit... (badly) ... > There were instructions for upgrading 1.3.6 to 1.3.7 alongside a = notice that > things would not be good if the instructions were not followed and an > explanation of the issue. I think these kinds of notices need to reach = more > people, but of course, that is easier said than done. > BTW, from what I have observed, 1.3.x issues have affected Poudriere = users the > most, binary package users a bit less (but still significantly), and = pure ports > users very little. >=20 >>> Also, 9.3 is out and the 9.2 EOL is not far away. Not sure why you = would be >>> doing a new install with 9.2. >>>=20 >> Try getting yourself a FreeBSD server at Softlayer... They still >> install 7.x for Christ's sake (amongst others - but last time I = checked, >> on new servers, 8.4, 9.0, 9.1, 10.0*) > Fair enough. >=20 >> (not had time - because an EOL message is not a 'It will not >> work after this date' message it is a 'you're unsupported after this >> date and things *might* not work as expected' > No, it means "we're not supporting this any more, so we don't care if = there are > new vulnerabilities or things stop working". I'm not going to dictate = to other > people what their upgrade schedule should be, but anyone running = unsupported > versions of software should not have any expectation that the = ecosystem around > it will be accommodating. > The ports tree already requires a lot work to make sure everything = works on > supported versions of FreeBSD, and I see no reason whatsoever for = anyone to put > effort into making it work on EOL versions. Installing pkgng on FreeBSD 7.x isn=92t impossible, but it does = require jumping through some hoops because xz not being present until = 8.x. These directions aren=92t complete (welcome to feedback if anyone = runs into issues), but they=92re a start: = https://github.com/yaneurabeya/scratch/blob/master/docs/cheatsheets/freebs= d . Cheers! -Garrett --Apple-Mail=_69E864F1-60BD-4D0B-BB04-34706E4AE5F6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJUBTYOAAoJEMZr5QU6S73eHOQIALDlJRDBWsF358dhExXJBs5L X3+x6WrobmZKCaJvZ1E+hftAjebU6pj+PRphgBeKy5l17f6xLKezDI8R3cRSr3rD zpXt74/7j/UXU0rITlft6toMkrFsGRWdmAw1q06Bb+T+gkz6hGi228WcGxD+dePe zXBKpN1VBzueCU+ElFo3Fk4hnNIpcFeu/3NW3eH9zmVnU4+u0EGKLl9rQFiMOi4A aQXw4XQ+kF+BsiSzkUwPj8PRApZkk4KPmWzKJtUX5PhuqycPwpjaGh4qumsxCNuq LFXav5jgEdiYCJL1SCIJm8FbIrf0M1xlTpV43r0+kuTTCm2pNexlF41j80kvIUk= =MBj1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_69E864F1-60BD-4D0B-BB04-34706E4AE5F6--
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