From owner-freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Sat Jan 26 11:49:23 2019 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 032AB14BFC26 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:49:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 61731765C1 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 1F82C14BFC25; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:49:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: arch@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0DF2914BFC24 for ; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:49:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from mx0.gid.co.uk (mx0.gid.co.uk [194.32.164.250]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B775765BD; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:49:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Received: from [194.32.164.27] ([194.32.164.27]) by mx0.gid.co.uk (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id x0QBhb8l087646; Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:43:38 GMT (envelope-from rb@gid.co.uk) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) Subject: Re: Importing mksh in base From: Bob Bishop In-Reply-To: <862c514f-7c19-ce6c-4438-1e765524cee2@quip.cz> Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:43:37 +0000 Cc: Jamie Landeg-Jones , grembo@freebsd.org, dteske@freebsd.org, arch@freebsd.org, bapt@freebsd.org Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <612ABF23-B940-4692-B977-2DF7CD34BC5C@gid.co.uk> References: <20190125165751.kpcjjncmf7j7maxd@ivaldir.net> <69E462A0-B9E9-4D26-898F-A96036227E65@FreeBSD.org> <201901251727.x0PHRniq094803@donotpassgo.dyslexicfish.net> <862c514f-7c19-ce6c-4438-1e765524cee2@quip.cz> To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 7B775765BD X-Spamd-Bar: ------ Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-6.94 / 15.00]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; REPLY(-4.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-0.94)[-0.940,0] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 26 Jan 2019 11:49:23 -0000 Hi, > On 25 Jan 2019, at 23:49, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote: >=20 > Jamie Landeg-Jones wrote on 2019/01/25 18:27: >> Heavy tcsh user here - strictly for interactive use (I use bourne = shell for >> shell scripting) >> Still, as long as it continues in base (and I'd be first to volunteer >> to maintain that if needed - it already contains a few patches of = mine), >=20 > Yes please, keep tcsh in base. > After almost 20 years on FreeBSD with tcsh I don't understand how = somebody can user bash as root shell. +1=20 And let=E2=80=99s not forget that bash brought us CVE-2014-6271 = (ShellShock). There may be other vulnerabilities lurking among the fancy = gadgets. > Kind regards > Miroslav Lachman -- Bob Bishop rb@gid.co.uk