From owner-svn-src-all@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Mar 6 13:09:00 2015 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BA76B67B; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 13:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-wg0-x230.google.com (mail-wg0-x230.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6031A771; Fri, 6 Mar 2015 13:09:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wghk14 with SMTP id k14so16150914wgh.7; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 05:08:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:cc:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:reply-to :mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=jLEYjqj3yVKizdSLJjRZqofXbwXZjaugv8aocC1yua0=; b=gM6b6yYeek49A6pwLFQ+mbPO881nuB+esc1ityvvTMhMUAVb+hzM72mg4gKmNWpMLJ V/sXRnAxcGL5ae9xlOrE1SqG3co1jBsfasd9x4c/UfzwsWfeP5K/mGy6/vsjHisfMA6O oA9IUt7CqdZgpO/CAJuY6Sr0ZfMDIAEzQmDFmZysmaxeazXNr3G6HFdO66rmQLsBZa8H L5XnonIsfQyVt1UMrufZkKCEnKT01qtqVlZcLqhRNerXz/ynpGwCo9M1YVuvN14ovgHR pMRbmgxRvO62j7OCkV9W3jwZOZMrMgSF6sttpTozG2eJoxQ7FWPA4hYQOXvWpyW2JGyB PIzw== X-Received: by 10.180.189.35 with SMTP id gf3mr32479285wic.5.1425647338776; Fri, 06 Mar 2015 05:08:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from ernst.home (p4FCA7C11.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.202.124.17]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id cn10sm2183927wib.15.2015.03.06.05.08.55 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Fri, 06 Mar 2015 05:08:56 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 14:08:54 +0100 From: Gary Jennejohn To: Dmitry Sivachenko Subject: Re: svn commit: r279603 - in head: bin/rcp usr.bin/rlogin usr.bin/rsh Message-ID: <20150306140854.29889622@ernst.home> In-Reply-To: <1735F6FC-02CD-48FC-BE88-47CB68748988@FreeBSD.org> References: <201503042201.t24M1jDG009278@svn.freebsd.org> <20150305114828.GK17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305122103.GA90978@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305122359.GM17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305123016.GO48476@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305123053.GN17947@FreeBSD.org> <20150305123349.GP48476@zxy.spb.ru> <20150305123548.GO17947@FreeBSD.org> <48981079-C9B7-411D-87A3-5A8F04924314@FreeBSD.org> <54F8ACDF.70305@freebsd.org> <1735F6FC-02CD-48FC-BE88-47CB68748988@FreeBSD.org> Reply-To: gljennjohn@gmail.com X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.11.1 (GTK+ 2.24.25; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.0) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Baptiste Daroussin , src-committers@freebsd.org, svn-src-all@freebsd.org, Alfred Perlstein , David Chisnall , Gleb Smirnoff , Slawa Olhovchenkov , svn-src-head@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 06 Mar 2015 13:09:01 -0000 On Fri, 6 Mar 2015 12:05:23 +0300 Dmitry Sivachenko wrote: > > > On 5 __________ 2015 __., at 22:22, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > > > > > > On 3/5/15 6:09 AM, David Chisnall wrote: > >> On 5 Mar 2015, at 14:04, Dmitry Sivachenko wrote: > >> > >>> It is so nice to have most useful stuff out of the box. > >> The question is whether a tool for logging into remote machines without encryption is 'the most useful stuff'. The tool is also [ab]used for network testing, but we already provide a better tool for that in the form of nc(1). > >> > >> David > >> > >> > > Agree. > > > > Moving it out of base +1000. > > > > It's time we made FreeBSD into an actual distro which is what is happening anyhow. > > > > This is a great time! > > > This would become a new fool's day, really. > Don't act like a monkey copying other's bad decisions. > > Having rich base system always were one of FreeBSD's strength, please don't break it. > Exactly. If I have to screw around installing utilities which should be part of the base system (and have been there for the last 30+ years) then I might as well move to Linux, as a previous poster noted. I want BSD, not some bastardized Linux. -- Gary Jennejohn