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Date:      Tue, 3 Sep 2002 19:02:40 +0200
From:      Thomas Pornin <pornin@bolet.org>
To:        alpha@freebsd.org
Subject:   AXPpci33 <-> Sparc sun4c  serial cable
Message-ID:  <20020903190239.A48033@gnah.bolet.org>

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Hello,

I have at home an AXPpci33 machine running happily FreeBSD-4.6. This is
a standard NoName board, with some PCI slots, onboard SCSI, a 166 MHz
cpu (21066 I believe) and 32 MBytes of ram. The board features a serial
port, which seems to be recognized by FreeBSD:

sio0: configured irq 4 not in bitmap of probed irqs 0
sio0 at port 0x3f8-0x3ff irq 4 on isa0
sio0: type 16550A
sio0: interrupting at ISA irq 4
sio1: reserved for low-level i/o


I shall soon acquire an old IPC Sun SparcStation. Those stations can
use a serial console, and are actually supposed to switch to a serial
console in the absence of any keyboard (there might be a switch on the
board but that's not a problem). If I remember correctly, the DB25
connector is female on those stations, and it is possible that the pin
layout is non-standard.

What I would like to do is connecting the serial ports of the Alpha
and the Sparc machines so that I could control the Sparc console from
a shell on the Alpha machine. I have two questions:

** What software should I use on the Alpha box ? I know there exists
some program called "minicom", which has a FreeBSD port, that might
be adequate. But is this the standard solution ?

** What is the layout of the serial cable to use ? I suspect that there
are non-standard serial ports on some Alpha machines for the following
reason: I once had a Multia, which is basically a NoName board in a
small box. That Multia could use a vt220 as console when no keyboard
was connected. A simple null-modem cable worked (those cables sold as
"doom-cable", with a DB9 and a DB25 at each end). I tried the same
setting on my current Alpha machine, and it did not work.

Some sort of reference on serial cables would be much appreciated.
There is some info on:
http://www.netbsd.org/Documentation/Hardware/Misc/serial.html
but it is only partial.


Thanks for any answer,


	--Thomas Pornin

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