From owner-freebsd-chat Thu Mar 4 0:56:21 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (zippy.cdrom.com [204.216.27.228]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F29A14DD1 for ; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:54:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) Received: from zippy.cdrom.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zippy.cdrom.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA43606; Thu, 4 Mar 1999 00:54:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jkh@zippy.cdrom.com) To: dyson@iquest.net Cc: chris@netmonger.net, freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Guess we've lost the server market too...? In-reply-to: Your message of "Wed, 03 Mar 1999 14:54:24 EST." <199903031954.OAA01376@y.dyson.net> Date: Thu, 04 Mar 1999 00:54:38 -0800 Message-ID: <43602.920537678@zippy.cdrom.com> From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > It is time for the low-life "in your face" attitude that alot of the > Linux crew has had for a long time. Completely disagree. Many of the Linux people are strident and intolerable only because they don't know any better. We do know better and for us it would be abandoning the high road and most of our personal principles for some purely hypothetical short-term gain in mind share. Of course, by the time we got those users we'd find that our former users had left us in disgust and it wouldn't be a big gain so much as a trade. Do you know how many people (linux users) have approached us at Linux World to say that they appreciate a voice of reason amongs all the screaming young advocates there, somebody to add a little *balance*? Did you read ;login this month? There's an interesting rant by a Linux advocate about how much he hates everything you and Brett have been suggesting WRT the foaming edge of advocacy. If you haven't read it, I suggest it. Do we need better advocacy? Of course, that's a boolean constant. Are we making progress with this? Yes. More than ever before, in fact. I'm not spending this week in San Jose for my health, ya know. :) Do we need an advocate corps of trolls, flamers and blatant scam-debate marketslimers on our side to do this? Most definitely not. Remember the old "we had to destroy the village in order to save it" quote from Vietnam? That's the kind of insane logic trap I think this discussion's now heading in. - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message