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Date:      Tue, 30 Oct 2007 09:58:40 -0400
From:      "Grant Peel" <gpeel@thenetnow.com>
To:        <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: Recommended servers for FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <000201c81afd$13a5f330$6501a8c0@GRANT>
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All,

We have been using Dell since early 2001. in fact, I have one comming up =
on two years uptime. (FreeBSD 4.4, Yeah, I know, but I just can't bring =
myself to shut it down to upgrade). Raid works well, new SAS systems =
work well, no burn CPUs or Memory. Lots of great online and on phone =
support.=20

I tried sourcing some 1u and 2u systems elsewhere (no names please), and =
in the end the Dells with 3 Year silver support and Waranttee were the =
same price, in a couple ways cheaper.

As for speed, they seem to middle of the pack. BUT remember ... bus =
speed, memory speed, disk access, are all sky high anyways, so speed may =
not bee an issue anyways, even with slower systems.

About the only negative thing I have to say is that I was not at all =
impressed with the DRAC III/XT cards. The new generation 4 and 5 cards =
seem to be better though.

I had some problems with freeBSD 6.0 freezing, but the same hardware is =
running 6.2 with no issues now. I am sure that was a FReeBSD quotas =
problem anyway.

Even a simple 24 port managed switch I have works good.

My two cents,

-Grant
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Terry Sposato=20
  To: 'Eric Crist' ; 'User Questions'=20
  Sent: Monday, October 29, 2007 11:04 PM
  Subject: RE: Recommended servers for FreeBSD


  On Oct 29, 2007, at 2:15 PM, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:

  > Hello,
  >
  > On Mon, 2007-10-29 at 12:05 -0500, Eric Crist wrote:
  >> On Oct 29, 2007, at 11:04 AM, Byung-Hee HWANG wrote:
  >>
  >> How do HP servers compare to Dell? We're Dell fans here, but always
  >> willing to look at something better.
  >
  > I do not know about Dell well. However i *really* want to use Dell=20
  > if i
  > have a chance. I think Dell is also good friend of FreeBSD.
  >

  If you're looking for a Dell recommendation, I'll give you one.=20
  I've had nothing but great luck with them. So far, all their=20
  hardware I've tried to use has been supported. There are rumors that=20
  their newest systems have gigabit network cards that FreeBSD doesn't=20
  have a stable driver for, so you're forced to install an Intel or=20
  other one in one of the available PCI slots.

  RAID works great, hot swap and the whole works. Even the RAID=20
  battery status comes up in dmesg appropriately.

  We tend to use used systems, as we're not in need of the fastest=20
  systems out there, but we're looking at buying a couple brand-new=20
  within the next month or so. If you're interested, trying buying a=20
  box on eBay (great prices), and you'll be pleasantly surprised.

  HTH!
  -----
  Eric F Crist
  Secure Computing Networks


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  Sorry for the awkward posting but I am at work so hence using a =
Windows
  machine with Outlook.
  I have attached a dmesg output of a Dell 2950 machine we recently =
purchased
  and have running flawlessly on FreeBSD amd64 6.2-RELEASE.
  Everything works great, didn't have to fiddle around with anything, =
GENERIC
  kernel picked up everything also.

  Cheers,

  Terry

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