From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Nov 26 22:53:12 2013 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4B2428A9; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:53:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-vb0-x22b.google.com (mail-vb0-x22b.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c02::22b]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EDF9524A5; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:53:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vb0-f43.google.com with SMTP id q12so4497560vbe.30 for ; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:53:11 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=2dMIggtpk6AXnAKcBD8l19jC7JJd/3YeRfe5aeTfrYo=; b=Bsse4WaA/sJudunJbh1Q0eYF8JKa1+kNpw7UUc7/fYsSAR/NVbDkjZXCsc5lIZbVnk rZV4ochCyPXjkMu70zUiJ3MOkk1T1l8l8LBzZ+xSuiDtdBRQj+5lON5JD5hOjzKMTSFA QcbU1a1/Nv6p80FO4Bds2NCDGF8wWNSAX+GYME98ROLHFwomEb5AL9WUM0I4C9yymW+Z npcWOVRCJ4ItWAmtahplnnhKe5zw7UlKkMQfV7dqMv9dhXUD1UTA99GkezCmpHEaZ395 cwRrvW+YZXC4RPJWXRmlFRwK88DJdsSoZjNNOgHHLqPnrHBapWhF6eof89SxSMv1prYo BKUA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.248.198 with SMTP id yo6mr685567vec.40.1385506391010; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:53:11 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.58.96.7 with HTTP; Tue, 26 Nov 2013 14:53:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1300352912.21429386.1385505735146.JavaMail.root@uoguelph.ca> References: <1300352912.21429386.1385505735146.JavaMail.root@uoguelph.ca> Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 23:53:10 +0100 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Alternate Data Stream Support in FreeBSD (was Re: O_XATTR support in FreeBSD?) From: Joshuah Hurst To: Rick Macklem Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Pedro Giffuni , Cedric Blancher , Freebsd hackers list , Richard Yao , Jordan Hubbard , Lionel Cons X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Nov 2013 22:53:12 -0000 On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 11:42 PM, Rick Macklem wrote: > Cedric Blancher wrote: >> On 26 November 2013 13:27, Lionel Cons >> wrote: > The NFSv4 working group seems to have decided to add support for atomically > set extended attributes (Linux, FreeBSD style) to a future minor revision, > due to it not being possible to accurately emulate them with named attributes. ABSOLUTELY not. Any such attempt will be voted down, as of NetApp, Oracle, and others. The extended attributes are nonstandard and not even backed by ANY other standard (e.g. POSIX, Single UNIX Standard). This will not happen, except for vendor-specific extensions not part of any NFSv4 RFC. Whatever shit or FUD Linux may invent, Linux-style extended attributes will NOT be part of the official NFS4.x *standard* Josh