From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Apr 29 08:35:00 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5124816A4CE for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:35:00 +0000 (GMT) Received: from fast.dnswatch.com (fast.dnswatch.com [216.177.243.43]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A455143D53 for ; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:34:59 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from null@dnswatch.com) Received: from fast.dnswatch.com (localhost.dnswatch.com [127.0.0.1]) by fast.dnswatch.com (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id j3T8Yurt014234; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:34:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from null@dnswatch.com) Received: (from www@localhost) by fast.dnswatch.com (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id j3T8YtxM014233; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:34:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from null@dnswatch.com) X-Authentication-Warning: fast.dnswatch.com: www set sender to null@dnswatch.com using -f Received: from mail.1command.com ([216.177.243.35]) (DNSwatch.com_WebMail authenticated user null) by webmail.dnswatch.com with HTTP; Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:34:55 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <55682.216.177.243.35.1114763695.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> In-Reply-To: References: <57436.216.177.243.42.1114582155.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20050426233321.084e9210@cobalt.antimatter.net> <51899.216.177.243.42.1114584317.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <6.1.0.6.2.20050427001118.0327cd50@cobalt.antimatter.net> <52515.216.177.243.42.1114586501.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> <61359.216.177.243.35.1114722481.localmail@webmail.dnswatch.com> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 01:34:55 -0700 (PDT) From: "/dev/null" To: "John Sconiers" , freebsd-current@freebsd.org User-Agent: DNSwatch.com_WebMail/1.4.2 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 Importance: Normal Subject: Re: boot banner project X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2005 08:35:00 -0000 > Well I don't believe it sucks. It's a good project. I'm also working > on a few projects that hopefully will add a few frills like linux. I > for enjoy Red Hat's boot: > > mounting file systems ok > network ok > Mysql failed > > etc etc. The one thing you should keep in mind is that a lot of > people who use freebsd don't care about the "frills" that linux has > added. However what they fail to realize is that it attracts and > keeps users. I have been around FreeBSD for a long time > ...almost....10 years...started as an admin. I had to install some > linux servers for work. I was impressed. The last time I used linux > was redhat 6.x. Until we start adding the "frills" especially ones > that are realatively easy (or seem easy) to do as well as disable we > will never have the user base. I'm actually about to star work on > these linux "frils" projects: > > 1. Adding full read/write / nfs support for reiserfs 4 > 2. Total rewrite of sysinstall to be like Red Hat's Anaconda (graphical) For ppl that have never installed FBSD b4 I think a GUI installer is a must. But personally, the *only* thing I would change in the current installer is better cursor handling. OK maybe I would also add a refresh button - I hate it when the screen gets trashed from some console message. > 3. FreeBSD Update (ala Red hat update / Windows update) It's already available in the 5x series (and late 4?). It's called portaudit and is the *BEST* implimentation for any OS I have ever used. A "must have" for any FBSD user. Look in the ports/security section of your local installation. > 4. GUI Kernel configurator > 5. GUI port manager (add / delete ports) There are a few incarnations of this(ese) already available depending of your windowmanager/ console choice. > 6. Other Small System enhancements > > If you want maybe we could create a group who's purpose is to create > system enhancements......let's come up with some projects work on them > and see if they are willing to commit them ........ think about it. Not to sound as if I'm shunning you, but I think we're already in one - this group, no? :) I'll give it some thought. -Chris > > > On 4/28/05, /dev/null wrote: >> Hello, >> As this is an RFC (I'm sure you already know that). >> >> Long answer: >> I'm not quite sure. It will depend on the amount and content >> of the comments. Technically, it may not start ever (because >> everyone/ or nearly everyone says it SUX). >> >> Short answer: >> Too early for me to say. >> >> _Chris >> >> > When are you starting the project? >> > //////////////////////////////////////////////////// If only Western Electric had found a way to offer binary licenses for the UNIX system back in 1974, the UNIX system would be running on all PC's today rather than DOS/Windows. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////