From owner-freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org Thu Aug 30 16:01:30 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2795610A2877 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B71028767A for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 7D9E910A2876; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:29 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: fcp-editors@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 437EA10A2875 for ; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from smtp-out-so.shaw.ca (smtp-out-so.shaw.ca [64.59.136.138]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BDB1A87675; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from cy.schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from spqr.komquats.com ([70.67.125.17]) by shaw.ca with ESMTPA id vPNrfFmBf5HxqvPNtfz4Fz; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 10:01:26 -0600 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=BMcHU2YG c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:117 a=VFtTW3WuZNDh6VkGe7fA3g==:17 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=dapMudl6Dx4A:10 a=y3olD_i8AAAA:8 a=NEAV23lmAAAA:8 a=YxBL1-UpAAAA:8 a=6I5d2MoRAAAA:8 a=9W74oRpuR0GXFyHXnHoA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=UJ0tAi3fqDAA:10 a=2GdgqtpztZvaxdPX1XqS:22 a=Ia-lj3WSrqcvXOmTRaiG:22 a=IjZwj45LgO3ly-622nXo:22 Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (slippy8 [10.2.2.6]) by spqr.komquats.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 13C371F33; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:02:09 -0700 (PDT) Received: from slippy.cwsent.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTP id w7UG171n075084; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Received: from slippy (cy@localhost) by slippy.cwsent.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) with ESMTP id w7UG17Ze075081; Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:01:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Cy.Schubert@cschubert.com) Message-Id: <201808301601.w7UG17Ze075081@slippy.cwsent.com> X-Authentication-Warning: slippy.cwsent.com: cy owned process doing -bs X-Mailer: exmh version 2.8.0 04/21/2012 with nmh-1.7.1 Reply-to: Cy Schubert From: Cy Schubert X-os: FreeBSD X-Sender: cy@cwsent.com X-URL: http://www.cschubert.com/ To: Brooks Davis cc: Cy Schubert , fcp-editors@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FCP-0101: Remove (most) 10/100 Ethernet drivers In-Reply-To: Message from Brooks Davis of "Thu, 30 Aug 2018 15:52:03 -0000." <20180830155203.GC21890@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 09:01:07 -0700 X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfGl+hQaGwZ8255hY91AxApQiXDlaP/iDz+ldqffpGgHfCcgqacHzY06wEs56D84jlPDffyHsZr6bYc9NSM/Y609MM1Ew3XuvzhOAG4P/5OT8dPT3UVCP 0w2rxATqXT78bGgb3RPZblshMIqqSUi6CRrYf4SX+Cigi0T0th8bpUBlQfVzOF15ITftVX8xGC1xYYD7Agc3qpfHKZQlQW6Hop+GqK+dMbbX5fiaUtXpgVyM X-BeenThere: freebsd-fcp-editors@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: In-progress FreeBSD Community Proposals List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2018 16:01:30 -0000 In message <20180830155203.GC21890@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks Davis wr ites: > > > --69pVuxX8awAiJ7fD > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > On Wed, Aug 29, 2018 at 05:28:59PM -0700, Cy Schubert wrote: > > In message <20180829202305.GA19802@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net>, Brooks=20 > > Davis wr > > ites: > > > My draft FCP to remove most 10/100 Ethertnet drivers is awaiting review > > > by someone who can merge the pull request. I'd like to put it around > > > for broader review prior to requesting core@ approval: > > > > > > https://github.com/freebsd/fcp/pull/18=3D20 > >=20 > > In addition I have a laptop that has rl, three running machines with=20 > > nfe and and one with vr. In addition to fxp, xl, and dc, that I=20 > > mentioned before, this would be very disruptive. > > When was the laptop made? Is the vr onboard or an addon card? As I'll > ask when I ask for broader feedback: do you plan to be running this > system unchanged except for OS update in 2024? The vr is on a motherboard and the rl is on a laptop motherboard. The laptop was made about six or seven years ago. > > > Isn't nfe gigabit? > > Including nfe was a mistake (the driver says: "NVIDIA nForce MCP Fast > Ethernet and Gigabit Ethernet" and I stopped reading at Fast Ethernet > because who ever writes this phrase?). ahh -- Cheers, Cy Schubert FreeBSD UNIX: Web: http://www.FreeBSD.org The need of the many outweighs the greed of the few.