From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jul 7 23:14:32 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E23E516A41C for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:14:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [204.107.90.128]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F95743D45 for ; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 23:14:32 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (ool-44c511d8.dyn.optonline.net [68.197.17.216]) (authenticated bits=128) by vjofn.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.12.9/8.12.9) with ESMTP id j67NAjvd075578; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:10:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (localhost.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com [127.0.0.1]) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.12.10) with ESMTP id j67NEN75020567; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:14:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from ml@t-b-o-h.net) Received: (from tbohml@localhost) by himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com (8.13.3/8.13.1/Submit) id j67NENDG020566; Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:14:23 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from tbohml) From: Tuc at T-B-O-H Message-Id: <200507072314.j67NENDG020566@himinbjorg.tucs-beachin-obx-house.com> To: xfb52@dial.pipex.com (Alex Zbyslaw) Date: Thu, 7 Jul 2005 19:14:23 -0400 (EDT) In-Reply-To: <42CDAF8F.5080807@dial.pipex.com> from "Alex Zbyslaw" at Jul 07, 2005 11:41:19 PM X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.5 PL6] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: Tuc at T-B-O-H , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problems since 5.3-RELEASE-p15 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 Jul 2005 23:14:33 -0000 > > I did the standard tests for 24 hours (21 passes) and it didn't fail. > >I ran the 90 minute fading one for 24 hours (8 runs) and it too didn't fail. > > It's almost a shame when a test like this passes. It's much easier to > just replace some memory and get on with things than be stuck with an > intermittent problem. > Understood. This is a Dell Laptop that JUST went out of 3 year warranty in May. Its still in pretty great condition, but if I had to start screwing around with it, I might just get something else... > > Could something be overheating? > I replaced the fans 6 months ago because it seemed a bearing was going. (And we found SO MUCH dust inside it that it wasn't cooling properly. Now that its clean, the fans even turn off at times!) Its happened on my lap, its happened on a glass table. > > Are you still getting random > segfaults? Is there *any* pattern you can see? > The only pattern I see is that it starts all of a sudden, goes for a little while, EVERYTHING you try to do fails, I get the /libexec/ld-elf.so.1: top: Shared object has no run-time symbol table type errors, and then all of a sudden it goes about its merry way. I'm not sure what a "run-time symbol table" is, and if it gets rebuilt at any time, or is something thats part of the program, or what.... But its not like one time it behaves one way, then another time it behaves another. I'd think if it was a memory issue, it'd be something other than the same "Shared object..." thing each time. One time it'd be a bus error, another time a "this isn't executable", etc.... Thanks, Tuc