From owner-freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Jan 31 21:23:33 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: small@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-small@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7DF3016A420; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:23:33 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from pasmtp.tele.dk (pasmtp.tele.dk [193.162.159.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F04B43D7F; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:23:20 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (0x535c0e2a.sgnxx1.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk [83.92.14.42]) by pasmtp.tele.dk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B3B91EC30C; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 22:23:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from critter.freebsd.dk (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by critter.freebsd.dk (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id k0VLMw8w003282; Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:22:59 GMT (envelope-from phk@critter.freebsd.dk) To: "M. Warner Losh" From: "Poul-Henning Kamp" In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 31 Jan 2006 13:16:54 MST." <20060131.131654.134137067.imp@bsdimp.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:22:58 +0000 Message-ID: <3281.1138742578@critter.freebsd.dk> Sender: phk@critter.freebsd.dk Cc: small@freebsd.org, sam@errno.com, rwatson@freebsd.org, current@freebsd.org, rizzo@icir.org Subject: Re: [RFC] what do we do with picobsd ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-small@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Dedicated and Embedded Systems List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2006 21:23:33 -0000 In message <20060131.131654.134137067.imp@bsdimp.com>, "M. Warner Losh" writes: >In message: <43DFC2D5.7040706@errno.com> > Sam Leffler writes: >Since I've started working on the bring up on an ARM based board, I've >been wanting something that is easy to work with and that worked. I >think it would help us a lot in the embedded space if we had something >integrated into the base OS to do this stuff. I agree. I think we need to be much more inclusive in our concept of a 'release' than we are now. As I see it, PicoBSD with its "additive" approach would cover the low-capacity (<32 MB ?) range, NanoBSD with its "subtractive" approach takes over from there, FreeSBIE covers the "don't touch my disk" range and finally the full blown release as we know it. -- Poul-Henning Kamp | UNIX since Zilog Zeus 3.20 phk@FreeBSD.ORG | TCP/IP since RFC 956 FreeBSD committer | BSD since 4.3-tahoe Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.