From nobody Sat Feb 5 21:27:07 2022 X-Original-To: questions@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07B2F198BE91 for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2022 21:27:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi1-x231.google.com (mail-oi1-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::231]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1D4" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4Jrlqh2hbHz4tWl for ; Sat, 5 Feb 2022 21:27:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi1-x231.google.com with SMTP id u13so12876740oie.5 for ; Sat, 05 Feb 2022 13:27:44 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=7obxsb8wKFfGlSMFY96cwA5TEEnfBH1oH7ItwO0nEf0=; b=Nt0BCRUbSFBenMVAHA1j7bpZCZZOznnXomNaOTLb/QBVoIsLmjGxRYXDhXnykgsOnQ hYZQL46xHphWlWlDsYFp/XToJHI6nKvKfAQpESylw4jok0zZh/RWi8Q+vDihuRO3E9W/ ehpjwNvUhNEJIOeegX+havHEw+rrwFeNFL+6jTStJo65TvGZRatCsHAcHccK1JcyEM5i 6hYBHzFw6oTaWPSY2YVvvNbb++y0rKqztpSTuFl23+gxKg05xdE0r8Jkcj3Cm/VcHd9a PSijr/ciaytjJs2CAkvksY8qddf2FUmdlStQyu9Y0ULSjSOwokphwS4X6dP+08jrRbQ/ 3TpQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=7obxsb8wKFfGlSMFY96cwA5TEEnfBH1oH7ItwO0nEf0=; b=bjXus3uM8Hi6uOyLE75W2XgYdR2aov/CafGbRc/PPAK/RyDxDDk7p0VbESwi8IrIgD KSwOwpAsXELuoZ1FQ+jlPV1SFEyMskOYPCCR2K5/218ucZ+U1haHQwVsGpyHY0rIO6A7 ZUC0rBH8Qpok+D+KQMaPjj9s56sAz9AHjBUSHOOr8Zl1a/cX0dEpXoqoEa9p07f2zY8V T+fMVaeO1GGSh2F9le4cRrcY/qH9wONrWgOTKeLqw4T9BXvI5fs+h7e7Jgw6bHq2r/Gr tA6bLpmjIjoQ8POO1PqijbDAMoto3aSgC0E6z8qF+YNYjIbJiGu+IzAJHx7kDAyxUup0 bgMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5300EMfmm9kKrGhxK0ubbV+GAaGWsNkBZNB3Wy/e2K5wNbkbtbyR 4ggixngCyd/6Qlj5ddM0rekBQR2uiM3z+9ZBSVQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwlqgl3ArwvIKtxebygU2disp7VmyoJo1nbeiORhX0tvqIyIrR8oCYa31al/2utckwN3mG0gKE3vmI5nwZlW+E= X-Received: by 2002:aca:5e55:: with SMTP id s82mr4101646oib.109.1644096463526; Sat, 05 Feb 2022 13:27:43 -0800 (PST) List-Id: User questions List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-questions List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <188a6994-9428-6d65-6ac0-e8d92997a389@gmx.at> <2F6C212A-B857-4DA3-8EDE-92787941BB57@kukulies.org> In-Reply-To: From: Mehmet Erol Sanliturk Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2022 00:27:07 +0300 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Building a FreeBSD NAS To: Shamim Shahriar Cc: questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000af5ed405d74c094d" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4Jrlqh2hbHz4tWl X-Spamd-Bar: --- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=gmail.com header.s=20210112 header.b=Nt0BCRUb; dmarc=pass (policy=none) header.from=gmail.com; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of mesanliturk@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=mesanliturk@gmail.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36:c]; FREEMAIL_FROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROMTLD(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[gmail.com:+]; RCPT_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(-0.50)[gmail.com,none]; NEURAL_HAM_SHORT(-1.00)[-1.000]; FREEMAIL_TO(0.00)[gmail.com]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; FREEMAIL_ENVFROM(0.00)[gmail.com]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; DWL_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[gmail.com:dkim]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[gmail.com:s=20210112]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000]; TAGGED_RCPT(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[questions@freebsd.org]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[2607:f8b0:4864:20::231:from]; MLMMJ_DEST(0.00)[questions]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N --000000000000af5ed405d74c094d Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 8:37 PM Shamim Shahriar wrote: > Hi Mehmet and group > > I'm not sure Truenas would require a separate computer, the existing > computer should be okay (assuming it is okay for adding all the services > manually). At best it may suggest a smaller boot device in addition. > Depending on the requirement for stability and redundancy there can be ma= ny > other additions -- but for a pure and simple network attached storage, > running FreeBSD 12.x and supporting many different sharing possibility > (samba, NFS, WebDAV, iSCSI) all ready to function as desired without the > need to get into all the nitty-gritty of things -- I honestly would like = to > understand why no one mentioned Truenas. > > Disclaimer: I do not work for Truenas nor have any pecuniary interest not > am I advocating for it. I'm just saying I'm a happy user and and think th= is > may be a possible solution. > > Best regards. > SS > > Another issue about supplying an answer to a question is to know sufficiently well the possibilities . When people do not know TrueNAS in such detail , it is natural to omit it because she/he is not able to say anything useful about it . Another point is also everyone is trying to supply an answer which who knows it very well . When these answers are considered as a whole , the question is more explicitly and correctly answered , and it is possible to select best one of the alternatives by knowing them in sufficient correctness . Mehmet Erol Sanliturk > On Sat, 5 Feb 2022, 14:46 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk, > wrote: > >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 5:22 PM Shamim Shahriar >> wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, just out of curiosity, why Truenas has not been >>> considered a possible solution? After all, it does everything that has = been >>> discussed so far and seem to fit the bill quite well! >>> >>> Just curious! >>> >>> Kind regards >>> SS >>> >>> >> >> >> >> With respect to me : >> >> He has an existent computer and he wants to use it . >> To suggest a different computer or install a different ( let's say ) >> version seems >> to be not useful for him . >> >> >> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sat, 5 Feb 2022, 12:58 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk, < >>> m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 3:39 PM Christoph Kukulies >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Main aim is to access it from macOS as NAS backup server. >>>>> >>>>> MacOS should be able to recognize it as a backup medium. >>>>> >>>>> =E2=80=94 >>>>> Christoph >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> You may do this as follows explained on pages from search in Google : >>>> >>>> >>>> from macos to freebsd nfs server >>>> >>>> >>>> Mehmet Erol Sanliturk >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Am 05.02.2022 um 11:02 schrieb infoomatic : >>>>> >>>>> =EF=BB=BF >>>>> On 05.02.22 10:13, Christoph Kukulies wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I=E2=80=99m thinking of setting up a NAS server on my FreeBSD (12.1) = system. What would be the product from ports or server I had to use? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> depends on how you gonna use it. First, I suggest updating to 12.3 >>>>> since 12.1 is end of life, or upgrade to 13.0. >>>>> >>>>> I use plain sshfs, so I do not need anything from ports ;-) I just us= e >>>>> sshd from the base system and fusefs-sshfs on my clients. >>>>> >>>>> If you intend to use nfs, it is also in base - with 13.0 you can also >>>>> use TLS to encrypt data in transmission. >>>>> >>>>> iscsi is also in base. However, if you want to share files with >>>>> Windows clients, you can use samba413 from ports/pkg. >>>>> >>>>> If you want to share files via webdav, use apache24 from ports/pkg, >>>>> for ftp I can recommend vsftpd from ports/pkg (or proftpd). >>>>> >>>>> For afp/filesharing with macos you can use netatalk3 from ports/pkg. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Robert >>>>> >>>>> --000000000000af5ed405d74c094d Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 = at 8:37 PM Shamim Shahriar <shamim.shahriar@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Mehmet and group

I'm not sure Truenas would require a = separate computer, the existing computer should be okay (assuming it is oka= y for adding all the services manually). At best it may suggest a smaller b= oot device in addition. Depending on the requirement for stability and redu= ndancy there can be many other additions -- but for a pure and simple netwo= rk attached storage, running FreeBSD 12.x and supporting many different sha= ring possibility (samba, NFS, WebDAV, iSCSI) all ready to function as desir= ed without the need to get into all the nitty-gritty of things -- I honestl= y would like to understand why no one mentioned Truenas.=C2=A0

Disclaimer: I do not work for Truena= s nor have any pecuniary interest not am I advocating for it. I'm just = saying I'm a happy user and and think this may be a possible solution.<= /div>

Best regards.
SS



<= div>
Another issue about supplying an answer to a question is to k= now sufficiently well
the possibilities . When people do not= know TrueNAS in such detail , it is natural
to omit it= because she/he is not able to say anything useful about it .

Another point is also everyone is trying to supply an= answer which who knows it very well .
When these answers ar= e considered as a whole , the question is more explicitly and
correctly answered , and it is possible to select best one of the alterna= tives by knowing
them in sufficient=C2=A0 correctness .=
=C2=A0

Mehmet Er= ol Sanliturk



=C2=A0
On Sat, 5 Feb = 2022, 14:46 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk, <m.e.sanliturk@gmail.com> wrote:

<= /div>

On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 5:22 PM Shamim Shahriar <shamim.shahr= iar@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello everyone, just out of curiosity, why T= ruenas has not been considered a possible solution? After all, it does ever= ything that has been discussed so far and seem to fit the bill quite well!<= div dir=3D"auto">
Just curious!

Kind regards
SS





With respect to me :

He has an existent computer and he wants to use it .
To suggest a differe= nt computer or install a different ( let's say ) version seems
to be not us= eful for him .


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk

<= br>

=C2=A0
On Sat, 5 Feb 2022, 12:58 Mehmet Erol Sanliturk, <m.e.sanlitu= rk@gmail.com> wrote:


On Sat, Feb 5, 2022 at 3:39 PM Ch= ristoph Kukulies <kuku@kukulies.org> wrote:
Main aim is to access it from macOS as NAS = backup server.

MacOS shoul= d be able to recognize it as a backup medium.

=E2=80=94
Christoph=C2=A0



<= div>
You may do= this as follows explained on pages from search in Google :


from macos to freebsd nfs server=


Mehmet Erol Sanliturk





<= br>
=C2=A0
Am 05.02.2022= um 11:02 schrieb infoomatic <infoomatic@gmx.at>:
=
=EF=BB=BF =20 =20 =20 =20
On 05.02.22 10:13, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
I=E2=80=99m thinking of setting up a NAS server on my FreeBSD (1=
2.1) system. What would be the product from ports or server I had to use?

depends on how you gonna use it. First, I suggest updating to 12.3 since 12.1 is end of life, or upgrade to 13.0.

I use plain sshfs, so I do not need anything from ports ;-) I just use sshd from the base system and fusefs-sshfs on my clients.

If you intend to use nfs, it is also in base - with 13.0 you can also use TLS to encrypt data in transmission.

iscsi is also in base. However, if you want to share files with Windows clients, you can use samba413 from ports/pkg.

If you want to share files via webdav, use apache24 from ports/pkg, for ftp I can recommend vsftpd from ports/pkg (or proftpd).

For afp/filesharing with macos you can use netatalk3 from port= s/pkg.


Regards,

Robert

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