From owner-freebsd-x11@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 21 14:06:34 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C8016A4CE; Fri, 21 May 2004 14:06:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail.soaustin.net (mail.soaustin.net [207.200.4.66]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E20CD43D2F; Fri, 21 May 2004 14:06:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from linimon@lonesome.com) Received: by mail.soaustin.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id BCEC8148C0; Fri, 21 May 2004 16:06:25 -0500 (CDT) Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 16:06:25 -0500 (CDT) From: Mark Linimon X-X-Sender: linimon@pancho To: "Pedro F. Giffuni" In-Reply-To: <20040521205624.75477.qmail@web13425.mail.yahoo.com> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org cc: x11@freebsd.org Subject: Re: XFree86 4.4 port ?? X-BeenThere: freebsd-x11@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: X11 on FreeBSD -- maintaining and support List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 21 May 2004 21:06:34 -0000 On Fri, 21 May 2004, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > The update to XFree86 seems rather painless except for the 'support' aspect of answering all the questions and dealing with whatever new breakage there is (with that many lines of code, _something_ will always break). I think this is what has everyone holding back -- no one, so far, has seemed to want to step up and do that in the way Eric has up until now. > changing to X.org will break many > ports, in particular those that don't use correctly $(X11BASE).* The appropriate solution to ports with bugs is for someone to submit a PR against each one so that it can be fixed. If we followed the above philosophy to its illogical conclusion, we would never be able to make any changes anywhere in FreeBSD. Further, fixing each of these ports can be done independently of any server upgrade, with fairly low support burden; there's no reason not to get started on them. mcl