From owner-freebsd-current Sun Jan 2 15:23: 3 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from Genesis.Denninger.Net (209-176-244-82.inil.com [209.176.244.82]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A3114C4C for ; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 15:22:58 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from karl@Genesis.Denninger.Net) Received: (from karl@localhost) by Genesis.Denninger.Net (8.9.3/8.8.2) id RAA26154; Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:22:47 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <20000102172247.F26048@Denninger.Net> Date: Sun, 2 Jan 2000 17:22:47 -0600 From: Karl Denninger To: Chuck Robey Cc: Poul-Henning Kamp , Warner Losh , current@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: xntpd - VERY old folks, how about updating? :-) References: <20000102165355.A26048@Denninger.Net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Mailer: Mutt 0.93.2i In-Reply-To: ; from Chuck Robey on Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 06:17:59PM -0500 Organization: Karl's Sushi and Packet Smashers X-Die-Spammers: Spammers cheerfully broiled for supper and served with ketchup! Sender: owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sun, Jan 02, 2000 at 06:17:59PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: > On Sun, 2 Jan 2000, Karl Denninger wrote: > > > > If you intend to keep up this "sour grapes" attitude, despite all > > > the helpful answers you have gotten so far, you should consider > > > stopping before you have worn out your welcome. > > > > > > -- > > > Poul-Henning Kamp FreeBSD coreteam member > > > > > > > > Yes, the "F-word". > > > > You have no ability to determine "my welcome". > > Karl, you've now managed to irritate a lot of folks. Jumping on Steve, > who is normally a huge worker, and totally inoffensive, was really pushing > things, but then jumping on Poul, who is somewhat easier to touch off, > well, you have been just about advertising "I want a fight!", although no > one's really given you much reason for it. > > Poul's response was right, you should come back in a few days, when you've > had time to cool off. No one else really wants to keep the fight going. I don't give a shit what Poul wants - or what you want. Corporate shilling does NOT go past me without a response, and Paol is completely full of shit in the context (time servers used by HUMANS for ORDINARY uses) that we were discussing at the time. Sticking custom PCI boards into a PC that count nanosecond-level clock transitions before the processor can get around to reading the input latch (at a cost of several hundred dollars MORE as a one-off science project) *DOES NOT COUNT*. Since I see the FreeBSD "treehouse" mentality hasn't changed, I guess my ORIGINAL assessment was correct. Duplicity and bullshit still rule the roost, just as they did a couple of years ago. Why the hell Walnut Creek wastes their money on your type REMAINS beyond my comprehension. -- -- Karl Denninger (karl@denninger.net) Web: http://childrens-justice.org Isn't it time we started putting KIDS first? See the above URL for a plan to do exactly that! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message