From owner-freebsd-hackers Thu Sep 14 8:15:31 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from tinker.exit.com (exit-gw.power.net [207.151.46.196]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9149E37B423 for ; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:15:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from realtime.exit.com (realtime [206.223.0.5]) by tinker.exit.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) with ESMTP id e8EFFL331653; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:15:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank@exit.com) Received: (from frank@localhost) by realtime.exit.com (8.11.0/8.11.0) id e8EFFsp05591; Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:15:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from frank) From: Frank Mayhar Message-Id: <200009141515.e8EFFsp05591@realtime.exit.com> Subject: Re: Fdescfs updates--coming to a devfs near you! In-Reply-To: <56076.968924938@critter> from Poul-Henning Kamp at "Sep 14, 2000 11:48:58 am" To: Poul-Henning Kamp Date: Thu, 14 Sep 2000 08:15:54 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Peter Pentchev , Julian Elischer , Chris Costello , hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORGG Reply-To: frank@exit.com Organization: Exit Consulting X-Copyright0: Copyright 2000 Frank Mayhar. All Rights Reserved. X-Copyright1: Permission granted for electronic reproduction as Usenet News or email only. X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL68 (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Poul-Henning Kamp wrote: > I must admit that I think in general that /dev/std{in,out,err} and /dev/fd > is bogus. It looks like something which happened "because we can" more > than something which has a legitimate need. I strongly disagree. I actually have a script that I use daily which requires a filename as an argument. By handing it /dev/stdin, I can make it take output as a part of a pipe. A _very_ useful little feature, IMNSHO. As far as fdescfs, well, Unixware has something very like it, and I believe that other commercial Unices do as well. I suspect that it's useful to some, if not to all. One thing about end users as opposed to engineers, they put this stuff to uses that we can't even imagine. Never underestimate the sheer ingenuity of a relatively naive user. :-) -- Frank Mayhar frank@exit.com http://www.exit.com/ Exit Consulting http://store.exit.com/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message