From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Apr 19 01:45:42 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9B79116A4CE for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:45:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from fwall.in.markiza.sk (fwall.in.markiza.sk [62.168.76.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 30A7343D5F for ; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 01:45:42 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from corwin@pleiades.aeternal.net) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (pleiades.in.markiza.sk [192.168.13.7]) by fwall.in.markiza.sk (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B639230BE; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:45:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from pleiades.aeternal.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pleiades.aeternal.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 13E3B1703D; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:46:55 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from corwin@localhost) by pleiades.aeternal.net (8.12.10/8.12.10/Submit) id i3J8ksUk095225; Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:46:54 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from corwin) Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 10:46:54 +0200 From: Martin Hudec To: Mark Message-ID: <20040419084654.GA94847@pleiades.aeternal.net> References: <200404181516.I3IFGIQ6039814@asarian-host.net> <20040419033848.GA10708@cat.robbins.dropbear.id.au> <200404190301.I3J31WIN075303@asarian-host.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <200404190301.I3J31WIN075303@asarian-host.net> X-Copyright: (C) 2004 Martin Hudec X-Operating-System: FreeBSD pleiades.aeternal.net 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 i386 X-PGP-Key: http://www.aeternal.net/corwin_aeternal.asc User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: ADI AD1980 6-channel audio X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Martin Hudec List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 19 Apr 2004 08:45:42 -0000 Hello Mark, For me, I use 5.2.1-RELEASE-p5 as desktop system for a month now, I haven't seen any spontaneous reboots or hangs, I just rebooted only when I had to build new world/kernel, and I never got into any problems (yes with -CURRENT it is another story :)) but that is my subjective point of view, I didn't test it on any production server to this time.. There are many advantages over 4.X branche, just to name few: UFS2, native ACLs support, usb support, yes bluetooth support, new hardware support, schedulers etc etc.. If there were really way too many problems as you say with 5.X, it wouldn't have been released as 5.X-RELEASE, would it? Those way too many problems in -question list are in great part reported from people which came straight to 5.X branch, without any experience with current production branch of 4.X. As others have mentioned in replies to your mail, do not put so much trust into what others say, but put more trust in what you have experienced, or in what you know.. That's my 10c to discussion. Cheers, Martin On Mon, Apr 19, 2004 at 03:01:59AM +0000 or thereabouts, Mark wrote: > Tim Robbins wrote: > > Because I do not trust 5.x yet. There are way, way too many problems > reported with it, daily, on the freebsd-questions list, for me to touch it > with the proverbial ten-foot pole. :) Now, if a 4.9 release came out for > amd64, that would be a different story, of course. I suspect the 32-bit > kernel will run nicely on the AMD 64 too, though. > > I would have loved to have had SATA support for the VIA chipset (not yet in > 4.9R). And if 5.x ever becomes stable (as stable as, say, my old 4.7R, which > in several years has never spontaneously reset/hung (!)), I will gladly > upgrade. > > But thanks for the encouraging glimps into the future, anyway. :) -- Martin Hudec | corwin at aeternal.net | corwin at web.markiza.sk http://www.aeternal.net | cell +421 907 303 393