From owner-cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Dec 2 19:23:50 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Delivered-To: cvs-all@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1945F16A4FF; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:23:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from harmony.bsdimp.com (vc4-2-0-87.dsl.netrack.net [199.45.160.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB26443CA5; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 19:23:27 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by harmony.bsdimp.com (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id kB2JNHXc077538; Sat, 2 Dec 2006 12:23:17 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from imp@bsdimp.com) Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:24:07 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <20061202.122407.232930910.imp@bsdimp.com> To: rwatson@FreeBSD.org From: "M. Warner Losh" In-Reply-To: <20061202085757.H40536@fledge.watson.org> References: <20061130174257.GY32700@FreeBSD.org> <20061202020221.GW38808@elvis.mu.org> <20061202085757.H40536@fledge.watson.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 4.2 on Emacs 21.3 / Mule 5.0 (SAKAKI) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-2.0 (harmony.bsdimp.com [127.0.0.1]); Sat, 02 Dec 2006 12:23:18 -0700 (MST) Cc: src-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-src@FreeBSD.org, alfred@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org, glebius@FreeBSD.org, ru@FreeBSD.org, sam@errno.com Subject: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/net if.c X-BeenThere: cvs-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: CVS commit messages for the entire tree List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 02 Dec 2006 19:23:50 -0000 In message: <20061202085757.H40536@fledge.watson.org> Robert Watson writes: : On Fri, 1 Dec 2006, Alfred Perlstein wrote: : : > * Gleb Smirnoff [061130 09:46] wrote: : >> On Thu, Nov 30, 2006 at 08:26:34PM +0300, Ruslan Ermilov wrote: : >> R> BTW, is if_{watchdog|timer} also dangerous for !MPSAFE drivers? : >> : >> It isn't. AFAIR, Robert promised to remove all !MPSAFE NIC drivers before : >> RELENG_7. : > : > Other than performance issues, what's the point of doing this? : > : > To me that sounds like we'd lose all of usb ethernet as it stands. I'm fine : > with fixing usb ethernet, but not under some thread-model of developement. : : You have been pointed to the USB stack rewrite for 7.x at least three times in : the last 24 hours. Getting developers involved in reviewing and testing this : work would be very useful. I can't stress this reviewing part enough. The new code is very different from the old code, and there's quite a bit of change to plow through. The more eyes we have, the better. I've had mixed luck with the new code myself, but mostly good luck. Warner