From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Jan 29 07:00:58 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0AB4B16A4CE for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:00:58 -0800 (PST) Received: from fledge.watson.org (fledge.watson.org [204.156.12.50]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9E53043D41 for ; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:00:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from fledge.watson.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by fledge.watson.org (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id i0TEwZUd058423; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:58:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Received: from localhost (robert@localhost)i0TEwYg5058420; Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:58:35 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from robert@fledge.watson.org) Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 09:58:34 -0500 (EST) From: Robert Watson X-Sender: robert@fledge.watson.org To: Stanislav Grozev In-Reply-To: <20040128080846.GA962@octavo.daemonz.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: FreeBSD constantly crashing X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 15:00:58 -0000 On Wed, 28 Jan 2004, Stanislav Grozev wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2004 at 07:50:52PM -0500, Robert Watson wrote: > > > attached are the kernel configuration and the dmesg. Please, can anyone > > > shed any light on this? I thought it was the hardware, but I've changed > > > everything except the hard disks - new case, new powersupply, new > > > motherboard, new processor, new RAM, new Adaptec. > > > > Are you able to get a crash dump, or compile in DDB and get a stack trace? > > I have recompiled a debug kernel and set up the system to provide a > crashdump. on the next crash I will get a stack trace and mail it here Thanks > > Does seem odd that the problem would persist after a downgrade -- can you > > confirm that you don't have any kernel modules that are out of sync with > > your current kernel source? > > i am using make installkernel, it insures that, right? i do not have any > third party modules - only the standard ones Sounds good. Sources of other modules are usually things like VMWare, etc, and if using them and also tracking -STABLE or -CURRENT, or changing versions generally, you have to be pretty careful. > I am using vinum, does that matter? but it is in sync with the kernel so > far no data corruption has occured (thankfully) Well, it might matter in the sense that it's a large piece of code that increases the breadth of code you're running, but if you're using installkernel, it shouldn't present an ABI problem (especially if userspace is also in sync). Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Projects robert@fledge.watson.org Senior Research Scientist, McAfee Research