From owner-freebsd-stable Sun Dec 23 23: 8:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from haloflightleader.net (adsl-63-197-56-193.dsl.lsan03.pacbell.net [63.197.56.193]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0BF2637B405 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:08:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from enterprise ([192.168.1.254]) by haloflightleader.net (8.11.6/8.11.6) with SMTP id fBO78J900286 for ; Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:08:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from peter@haloflightleader.net) Message-ID: <000a01c18c49$701dffc0$0101a8c0@haloflightleader.net> From: "Peter Ong" To: References: <002a01c18c3e$31ad8180$0101a8c0@haloflightleader.net> Subject: Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2001 23:05:57 -0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG This time I tried watching like three Quicktime movies. No skips. It was perfect. Did I mention that I love FreeBSD? Because right around about now, I wouldn't have been able to tell it was a Unix/(sort of -- actually Intel) box. (o:`, YYYEEEEEHHHHHHHHAAAAAA!!!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Ong" To: Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 9:45 PM Subject: Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing > Found the answer. Only a suspicion though. > > When I had RH7.1/Samba, there was no skips, I told you. But, when I finally > moved to FreeBSD, my mp3 was skipping. I couldn't even watch movies > anymore. I said it would only happen after about a minute was through the > song. > > What I didn't think to correlate was the amount of free space on the client > machine which is my Windows98SE laptop. There was like some 40MB free left. > I didn't set a partition specifically swap on the Windex machine either. > > Hence, I was right about my theory. It was reading the cache faster than it > could be written because there wasn't much space to write a larger cache. > Thus, it was skipping. I re-installed this evening the laptop. No more > skipping. But then again there is more than 2GB of space open. No more > skipping. > > Back to my original theory. FreeBSD rewls! Yeah! Around about the same > time I installed Visio on my laptop which took a lot of space. There was > already a lot of clutter on the hdd to begin with. Visio exacerbated the > problem. > > Now, no visio. Woohoo! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Robert Watson" > To: "Peter Ong" > Cc: "Nevermind" ; "Murray Stokely" > ; ; ; > > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 2:18 PM > Subject: Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing > > > > The theory goes that there are a number of TCP improvements, in particular > > a bugfix involving the newreno algorithm, that should address this > > specific problem. Once our first release candidate comes out, we'd really > > appreciate it if you had the chance to test and see if that fixes the > > problem. It should be out around Jan 5, 2002. If it doesn't, please post > > to freebsd-qa@FreeBSD.org ASAP. (an upgrade on the -STABLE branch should > > also fix it). > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > > > Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project > > robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services > > > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Peter Ong wrote: > > > > > I apologize if I'm off. But it seems you guys are talking about > improving > > > FBSD 4.5 networking performance. > > > > > > I am currently using FreeBSD 4.4 Release. It works great, but there is > that > > > one problem Samba. I like Samba because it's functional. I don't know > if > > > it's Samba's fault, or if it's BSD's fault, but it behaves very > erratically. > > > Sometimes it's fast, sometimes it's slow. > > > > > > When I used RH7.1, I installed Samba there as well. Samba worked fine, > but > > > also with the same behavior. But it was somewhat more reliable on RH > than > > > FreeBSD. I don't know if it's Samba itself or the OS, although I'm > inclined > > > to say it is Samba. If so, disregard this message. > > > > > > When I used RH/Samba, I put all of my MP3 music there. I'd listen to it > on > > > Winamp from my Win98 laptop. It worked fine... no skips. But when I > put > > > it on FreeBSD, the first minute or so is skip free, but as it passes > that > > > time limit it starts skipping... I mean, it blanks out as if it's > readying > > > the cache faster than it's being transfered over the network. My > network is > > > 10/100Mbits switched. > > > > > > The difference is now only the operating system. The box is a > P3/450/128MB. > > > It had RH, then it moved to FreeBSD. Now, I'm having that problem. > Videos > > > are even worse. I have some *.mov, and Real movie files, that I must > first > > > download, and then I watch. I can't watch it over the wire. > > > > > > This is just my two cents. Maybe 5 cents. Thanks. > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Robert Watson" > > > To: "Nevermind" > > > Cc: "Murray Stokely" ; ; > > > ; > > > Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2001 10:53 AM > > > Subject: Re: 4.5 PRERELEASE - Call for testing > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Sun, 23 Dec 2001, Nevermind wrote: > > > > > > > > > Hello, Murray Stokely! > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Dec 21, 2001 at 04:30:37PM -0800, you wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > There were some problems with the network performance of FreeBSD > 4.4 > > > > > > that were never discovered during the release candidates phase, so > I'd > > > > > > like to take a more pro-active role in getting users to test the > > > > > > system in more demanding environments. > > > > > > > > > > > > A complete list of changes is available in the 4.5-PRERELEASE > > > > > > release notes, available at : > > > > > > > > > > > > http://people.freebsd.org/~bmah/relnotes/ > > > > > > > > > > Could you, please, include in Relnotes that Java will be included in > > > > > 4.5? > > > > > > > > I have't seen that support actually appear in ports/packages-land as > yet, > > > > but I greatly look forward to that happening. It would probably be > > > > appropriate to wait until the details have been committed before > > > > documenting it. > > > > > > > > Robert N M Watson FreeBSD Core Team, TrustedBSD Project > > > > robert@fledge.watson.org NAI Labs, Safeport Network Services > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message