From owner-freebsd-gnome@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Sep 23 15:51:21 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B4BF316A4CE; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:51:21 +0000 (GMT) Received: from maxlor.mine.nu (c-213-160-32-54.customer.ggaweb.ch [213.160.32.54]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EBBD43D2F; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:51:21 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from benlutz@datacomm.ch) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5317F20B; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:51:19 +0200 (CEST) Received: from maxlor.mine.nu ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (midgard [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 88253-04; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:51:18 +0200 (CEST) Received: from merlin.intranet (merlin.intranet [10.0.0.16]) by maxlor.mine.nu (Postfix) with SMTP id 7243CCF; Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:51:18 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:51:17 +0200 From: Benjamin Lutz To: "Jose M Rodriguez" Message-Id: <20040923175117.41f013c5.benlutz@datacomm.ch> In-Reply-To: References: <20040922111841.GA9943@aoi.wolfpond.org> X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.12-gtk2-20040622 (GTK+ 2.4.9; i386-portbld-freebsd5.3) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg="pgp-sha1"; boundary="Signature=_Thu__23_Sep_2004_17_51_17_+0200_TSTaLGHjR/VddFn." X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at maxlor.mine.nu cc: gnome@freebsd.org cc: x11@freebsd.org cc: kde@freebsd.org cc: current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Plans for after FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE. X-BeenThere: freebsd-gnome@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: GNOME for FreeBSD -- porting and maintaining List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Sep 2004 15:51:21 -0000 --Signature=_Thu__23_Sep_2004_17_51_17_+0200_TSTaLGHjR/VddFn. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello, > Our ask is about comments, notes and approvals to: > > - patchs against src for /etc/rc.d/xdm and so. I would really like this. rcNG has greaty simplyfied many things, and the /etc/ttys way of starting display managers is unintuitive. > - patchs against xorg-clients (and sim) to move xinit/xdm config to > /etc/X11 Hm... I really like FreeBSD's way of keeping / as clean as possible, only adding 3rd party files to /usr/X11R6 an /usr/local. What about /usr/X11R6/etc? Btw, this is one area where I think it's a bad idea to emulate Linux, most Linux's /etc dirs are a mess. > - patchs to get an uniform processing of Xresources, Xprofile, ... Sounds good, but what exactly are you planning to change? > - patchs against gnome (mainly gdm) to share as much config as posible > with X11 > - patchs against kde (mainly kdm in kdebase) with same purpose. Isn't this what freedesktop is doing anyway? If you can get Gnome and KDE to accept your patches, that's great. If it means maintaining (yet another) FreeBSD-specific set of Gnome and KDE patches, I don't think that's a good idea. As for making KDE and Gnome into more of a "FreeBSD Desktop" (you've mentioned themes), I think it's a great idea. However, I'm sure I'm not the only one who likes the fact that FreeBSD provides the "vanilla version" of those two Desktop Environments, as opposed, for example, to the heavily modified KDE that SuSE ships. So may I suggest that you make your efforts here optional? Something like this maybe: cd /usr/ports/x11/kde; make install # Installs "FreeBSD Desktop" cd /usr/ports/x11/kde; make install -DWITH_VANILLA # Installs Vanilla KDE Benjamin --Signature=_Thu__23_Sep_2004_17_51_17_+0200_TSTaLGHjR/VddFn. Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.6 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFBUvD4gShs4qbRdeQRAlc7AJ4mYWtPPAs9IXQ6vjACeFCncG1XYQCggNh3 LqIX+t+sUJYc2KOw2ld4uS4= =y7ub -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Signature=_Thu__23_Sep_2004_17_51_17_+0200_TSTaLGHjR/VddFn.--