From owner-freebsd-ports Sun Feb 13 17:30:39 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Received: from mail.utexas.edu (wb3-a.mail.utexas.edu [128.83.126.138]) by builder.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C8CEF3F50 for ; Sun, 13 Feb 2000 17:30:34 -0800 (PST) Received: (qmail 14258 invoked by uid 0); 14 Feb 2000 01:30:43 -0000 Received: from dial-51-34.ots.utexas.edu (HELO nomad.dataplex.net) (128.83.113.130) by umbs-smtp-3 with SMTP; 14 Feb 2000 01:30:43 -0000 From: Richard Wackerbarth To: Gary Kline Subject: Re: /usr/ports/ too big? Date: Sun, 13 Feb 2000 18:51:01 -0600 X-Mailer: KMail [version 1.0.28] Content-Type: text/plain Cc: freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20000209215806.M99353@abc.123.org> <00021318141200.06543@nomad.dataplex.net> <20000213162637.B61133@tao.thought.org> In-Reply-To: <20000213162637.B61133@tao.thought.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-Id: <00021319283201.06543@nomad.dataplex.net> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-ports@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 13 Feb 2000, Gary Kline wrote: > My take on this is that the more ideas we have, the better off > the entire effort. I can't see a problem for at least 5 years > --probably more--. So it would help (me at least) if you would > detail outline the troubles you see down the road and what your > solutions are. The problems are now! As I have stated previously, CTM services are having to be pruned; Mirrors have dropped the scope of their distribution or dropped out entirely. I'm sure that other would-be participants have not come forward because the they cannot dedicate the resources. On the personal side, I know a number of newcomers who have been unwilling to give our ports system a try because they are unwilling to dedicate the requisite space to get started. I have no idea how to measure these lost opportunities. FreeBSD needs more vocal followers. If we keep turning away the newcomers, we will remain an insignificant minority. So far, the group has made some progress in becoming less uninviting the those who have less than total immersion in the guts of things. However, there is still a wide gap between knowing nothing and total immersion. We need to help place "stepping stones" in the gap. -- Richard Wackerbarth rkw@Dataplex.NET To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-ports" in the body of the message