Date: Wed, 26 Nov 1997 12:14:24 -0800 From: Studded <Studded@dal.net> To: bugs@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: "make release" will fail because SGML tolls has moved to ports Message-ID: <347C8320.C7885DE4@dal.net> References: <199711261847.UAA13048@zibbi.mikom.csir.co.za>
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Paul Allenby wrote: > > "J Wunsch wrote:" > > As Ruslan Ermilov wrote: > > > > > Now it is impossible to make a release of 2.2-STABLE > > > (and CURRENT I think) on a 2.2-system built after 1997/07/16 > > > (the date SGML staff was removed from RELENG_2_2). > > > > ``Yes, we know.'' > > > > Of course, if you came up with a *solution*, instead of stating a > > known problem, we would have been far more enthusiastic about it... :) > > > > -- > > cheers, J"org > ...and perhaps if postings to these lists were met with a little less > aggression, maybe people would be prepared to offer their thoughts. I wouldn't characterize J"org's response as aggressive, he is simply stating a fact. Re this thread Jordan was took the time to double-check his earlier statement, realized his error and corrected it, so all is not lost. :) I have noticed that you get a lot more interest on the various FreeBSD lists if you provide code, or at least a willingness to help. However, there are plenty of people like me who are capable of identifying problems, but not always capable of fixing them. At the same time, there was just a thread on -chat regarding people who wanted to help, but didn't know where to start. Perhaps someone from core could (or could appoint someone to) coordinate the various bits and pieces that people submit with the people willing to help. Now that I am more familiar with how things work I am enjoying the opportunity to make small contributions here and there, even when my ideas get rejected. :) It's still more input than I have with Microsoft or IBM, and if my stuff doesn't get into the distribution I can still do it the way I want to on my own boxen, so there. :) Working with several volunteer projects myself, I can understand why the core team would be frustrated by people that only present problems without solutions, since the implication is that someone ought to fix them, and someone usually means them. :) However, the project has grown big enough now that there are people to handle those "important but not urgent" problems. We just need to put the people with the ability to help together with what needs fixed. Doug (and yes, I'm aware of the irony in this letter :)
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