From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Dec 12 23: 9:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from freebie.atkielski.com (ASt-Lambert-101-2-1-14.abo.wanadoo.fr [193.251.59.14]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDB2337B416 for ; Wed, 12 Dec 2001 23:09:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from contactdish (contactdish.atkielski.com [10.0.0.10]) by freebie.atkielski.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id fBD79Yx38484; Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:09:35 +0100 (CET) (envelope-from anthony@freebie.atkielski.com) Message-ID: <008401c183a5$1f1cace0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> From: "Anthony Atkielski" To: "FreeBSD Chat" , "Mike Meyer" References: <20011211140107.A67653@FreeBSD.org><0112071641320B.01380@stinky.akitanet.co.uk><01121010202100.00345@stinky.akitanet.co.uk><20011211144049.A14693@acidpit.org><20011211214943.A4489@tisys.org><15382.29599.349155.309028@guru.mired.org><20011211230257.A5157@tisys.org><4.3.2.7.2.20011212181551.015734a8@threespace.com><15384.11772.363959.693167@guru.mired.org><003701c18398$07091d30$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15384.17244.476714.955574@guru.mired.org><004901c1839d$b273c440$0a00000a@atkielski.com><15384.19146.990082.336336@guru.mired.org><005201c183a1$39ae92c0$0a00000a@atkielski.com> <15384.20874.658211.478300@guru.mired.org> Subject: Re: EzBSD aint for me! Was: A breath of fresh air.. Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2001 08:08:39 +0100 Organization: Anthony's Home Page (development site) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4522.1200 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike writes: > I do. And I've seen people do that with Unix > as well. Since it only takes one example to > disprove such an assertion, your original > assertion about Unix require an expert to > set it up and maintain it is false. I find that sufficiently implausible that I'd have to see it to believe it. FreeBSD, in particular, cannot be installed by persons with no knowledge of IT. Even installation of NT/2000 server requires that much. > So if I give someone a floppy with a script that > writes the appropriate configuration files on > FreeBSD to talk to my favorite ISP, that wouldn't > count as "outside assistance"? If it is provided as an integral part of the complete installation package, no, it would not count as outside assistance. Outside assistance means having to ask someone questions or asking for intervention during the process. > I take it you don't know how to configure > Windows with a paned window manager, since > you never answered that question. Correct. I've never heard of a paned window manager for Windows. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message