From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Mar 6 4:50:17 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (rwcrmhc54.attbi.com [216.148.227.87]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AA11A37B400 for ; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 04:50:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from attbi.com ([12.254.218.32]) by rwcrmhc54.attbi.com (InterMail vM.4.01.03.27 201-229-121-127-20010626) with ESMTP id <20020306125009.WWTF1214.rwcrmhc54.attbi.com@attbi.com>; Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:50:09 +0000 Message-ID: <3C86107D.A989F8A@attbi.com> Date: Wed, 06 Mar 2002 05:50:05 -0700 From: Joe Warner Organization: nunyabiz X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; Linux 2.4.2 i386) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Terry Lambert Cc: Mike Meyer , Miguel Mendez , Cliff Sarginson , anderson@centtech.com, Josef Karthauser , chat@freebsd.org Subject: Re: http://users.uk.freebsd.org/~juha/ References: <3C7FB956.18428.510B414@localhost> <20020301201318.C3880@over-yonder.net> <200203051407.g25E7WF10805@dungeon.home> <20020305165222.GC705@raggedclown.net> <000c01c1c322$df0f22a0$0101a8c0@noc2> <20020304202541.U91555-100000@earl-grey.cloud9.net> <20020305015104.GA40292@core.usrlib.org> <20020305114625.GA11426@raggedclown.net> <20020305144726.B89475@energyhq.homeip.net> <3C84CE12.5FFBFF0C@centtech.com> <20020305154017.GB17913@genius.tao.org.uk> <20020305164957.A91495@energyhq.homeip.net> <20020305155144.GD17913@genius.tao.org.uk> <20020305171005.GD705@raggedclown.net> <15493.46823.314020.486195@guru.mired.org> <3C85BC7A.C8EC8E0D@mindspring.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------BD1C868B951EC24FD347A167" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --------------BD1C868B951EC24FD347A167 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terry Lambert wrote: > Mike Meyer wrote: > > No, it was made up by real hackers - the kind that get invited to the > > hackers conference - to describe people who break into computer > > systems that they aren't allowed onto, so they could continue calling > > themselves hackers without people assuming they were some kind of > > criminal. > > > > I was that the hackes conference the press was allowed to visit. The > > piece on he conference made it out like we were all some kind of > > villains, plotting the next attack on Silicon Valley. Never mind that > > a measurable percentage of the *ownership* of Silicon Valley was in > > attendance. > > > > Notable for his absense was Captain Crunch. > > FWIW, John is working as the front guy for a security > company these days, so he's unlikely to show up anywhere > he might be considered shady. ;^). > > -- Terry I've been talking to John the last few days about his new product called the CrunchBox: http://www.shopip.com/ I signed up for a login and tried the online demo out and it looks to be a really great product. He seems like a nice fellow that has a lot to offer to the ComSec community. Joe > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message -- Joe Warner Daemon News Daemon News E-Zine http://www.daemonnews.org Print Magazine http://magazine.daemonnews.org/ BSDMall http://www.bsdmall.com --------------BD1C868B951EC24FD347A167 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Terry Lambert wrote:
Mike Meyer wrote:
> No, it was made up by real hackers - the kind that get invited to the
> hackers conference - to describe people who break into computer
> systems that they aren't allowed onto, so they could continue calling
> themselves hackers without people assuming they were some kind of
> criminal.
>
> I was that the hackes conference the press was allowed to visit. The
> piece on he conference made it out like we were all some kind of
> villains, plotting the next attack on Silicon Valley. Never mind that
> a measurable percentage of the *ownership* of Silicon Valley was in
> attendance.
>
> Notable for his absense was Captain Crunch.

FWIW, John is working as the front guy for a security
company these days, so he's unlikely to show up anywhere
he might be considered shady.  ;^).

-- Terry

I've been talking to John the last few days about his new
product called the CrunchBox:

http://www.shopip.com/  I signed up for a login and tried the
online demo out and it looks to be a really great product.  He
seems like a nice fellow that has a lot to offer to the ComSec
community.

Joe
 

 

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