From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 8 01:37:08 2005 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0398716A41F for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2005 01:37:08 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from S4.cableone.net (s4.cableone.net [24.116.0.230]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A9C143D45 for ; Sat, 8 Oct 2005 01:37:07 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from vvelox@vvelox.net) Received: from vixen42.vulpes (unverified [24.119.122.41]) by S4.cableone.net (CableOne SMTP Service S4) with ESMTP id 33092679 for multiple; Fri, 07 Oct 2005 18:51:06 -0700 Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2005 20:43:53 -0500 From: "Z.C.B." To: garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) Message-ID: <20051007204353.6a56bd39@vixen42.vulpes> In-Reply-To: References: <20051005184437.GA36369@dogma.freebsd-uk.eu.org> <0bvf0bwk7k.f0b@mail.opusnet.com> <434531A6.4080401@meijome.net> X-Mailer: Sylpheed-Claws 1.9.15 (GTK+ 2.6.10; i386-portbld-freebsd5.4) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-IP-stats: Incoming Last 1, First 141, in=258, out=0, spam=0 X-External-IP: 24.119.122.41 X-Abuse-Info: Send abuse complaints to abuse@cableone.net Cc: Norberto Meijome , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hidden spot on hard drives? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 01:37:08 -0000 On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:26:08 -0700 garys@opusnet.com (Gary W. Swearingen) wrote: > Norberto Meijome writes: > > > Where does HPA(Host protected Area) sit in all this? is this the > > 'boot sector' trick? > > I don't know. I just heard that some computer makers are somehow > reserving as much as half the HDD for a full copy of the OS to > recover from when the normal one trips over itself. I'm guessing > that this has more to do with MSFT licensing terms than with saving > a buck from not including a CDROM. I wonder if there's some > low-level way to tell a modern disk drive where you want "sector 0" > to start. As a tech, I have seen this before. Let me assure you this has everything thing to do with saving a bit of money. BTW those partitions are rather easy to access... just take it out and put it in another machine. The installation of windows on drives like that are set up not to see it, for the most part. IIRC it is visible from the MMC. If you take the drive out and put in another machine, it is perfectly visible.