From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Dec 29 20:49:17 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9FE6416A4CE for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:49:17 +0000 (GMT) Received: from melon.pingpong.net (82.milagro.bahnhof.net [195.178.168.82]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4CCFA43D48 for ; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:49:17 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from girgen@pingpong.net) Received: from localhost (localhost.pingpong.net [127.0.0.1]) by melon.pingpong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 556B94AC2F; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:49:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from melon.pingpong.net ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (melon.pingpong.net [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 78112-01-13; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:49:16 +0100 (CET) Received: from palle.girgensohn.se (1-2-8-5a.asp.sth.bostream.se [82.182.157.66]) by melon.pingpong.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1F2164AC2E; Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:49:13 +0100 (CET) Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 21:49:10 +0100 From: Palle Girgensohn To: Brooks Davis Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20041229203601.GD10293@odin.ac.hmc.edu> References: <05F0F09DEB66858D9B452FB8@palle.girgensohn.se> <20041229203601.GD10293@odin.ac.hmc.edu> X-Mailer: Mulberry/3.1.6 (Linux/x86) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at pingpong.net cc: stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: how to remote update 4.10 -> 5.3? X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 29 Dec 2004 20:49:17 -0000 --On onsdag, december 29, 2004 12.36.01 -0800 Brooks Davis wrote: > On Wed, Dec 29, 2004 at 09:30:37PM +0100, Palle Girgensohn wrote: >> Has anyone managed to update a 4.10 system to 5.3 remotely, i.e. without >> console access, and without spare disk partitions? >> >> I have a bunch of 4.10 machines that are too far away for me to actually >> do the update hands on. I've tried it on a test machine, it fails half >> way through installworld, and really needs single user mode to succeed. >> The install procedure fails since it starts using the newly installed >> stuff, things like sh(1) and test(1), and they cannot find their >> libc.so.5, I guess... >> >> One idea I have is copying / and /usr to some other place and set >> ldconfig and PATH=some/other/place and when building and installing. >> Haven't tried it yet, thought I'd hear anyone on this list has a better >> suggestion? >> >> Optimally, there would a couple of gigs on a separate spare disk >> partition so I could just install everything there and use it upon >> reboot. Problem is, there is no such space. :( > > In general, my suggestion would be, don't do that. Do you really need > to upgrade? Remember, 4.11 is likely to be supported for security > upgrades into early 2006 so if your machines are working and you don't > really need the new functionality, I'd suggest avoiding an upgrade. Well, I need wide char support, as in iswlower and the likes. Maybe I could use some portability lib or similar...? Ideas? BTW, do you mean that 5.3 is not stable enough, or just that it is a nuisance to upgrade? While I agree that 4.10 is very stable, a lot of things have improved with 5.x... /Palle