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Date:      Sat, 30 Jan 1999 08:03:55 -0500
From:      "Brian J. McGovern" <mcgovern@spoon.beta.com>
To:        dan@jgl.reno.nv.us, hamellr@dsinw.com, grog@lemis.com
Cc:        questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Tape drive
Message-ID:  <199901301303.IAA25857@spoon.beta.com>

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Sorry, I got side tracked on the discussion about drive failures and losing
data.... Silly me, not thinking about rm.

At work, we use cheap DAT tapes for day to day backups (I think like $400). 
Usually about once a week, I'll also cut a CD-RW with the critical things...
CVS repository, home directories, web server pages, DNS databases, etc. 
You'd be surprised what gzip can do for compression of these types of 
files :) We usually can pull about 3 GB on to a CD. 

Usually, we don't store binaries and the like, as we tend to run "stock"
applications (apache, et. al) so reconstruction on a totalled machine is
usually an hour to reinstall plus another 20-30 minutes to mount and dump
the CD back on to the disk. 

Cost on the drives (I use the Yamaha 4x2x6 SCSI) was like $300. CD-R blanks
are ~$0.75 on the high end, and CD-RW media last I bought was about $20 a pop.
Using tar/gzip/mkisofs/cdrecord, I've automated the erasing of the CD-RW,
building of the tar file, creation of the 9660 image, and the burn. Takes about
a hour and a half to backup 2.5 GB of data. We then (the next morning) mount
the CD-RWs in the CD-changer, so our developers can recover their own lost
files.... The only downside to this is the amount of transient disk space
needed to build the intermediary steps (although you may be able to pipe
it instead).

At home, I exclusively use the CD-RW option, but I don't have nearly as much
data to backup, but its cheap, and, to me, more reliable than tape. I, too,
got burnt when the DAT drive I had bought for home use went bad after 13
months (the old "Right after the warranty is over story"). I just couldn't
see shelling out another $600-$800 for a drive when it costs them like $50
to make it... After all, I can get 18.2+ GB SCSI drives for that. Why
would I want a tape?

	-Brian

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