From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jul 29 04:39:07 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EE1916A4DA for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:39:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: from ug-out-1314.google.com (ug-out-1314.google.com [66.249.92.175]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB8B443D53 for ; Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:39:06 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from nikolas.britton@gmail.com) Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id m2so35953uge for ; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:39:05 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=bozbd+x9rJ5k02ZnwzUrDXS/X1SAT45WX2WKASPwAm6SeRDpP6X5Ah9FT+FD/EmTeGE+0IwODNc3I/fnQqNfNOPhbLcB0pA6gBFRE6fk/fmhgYYsrD+hspGF3xRDUwmAY4/NCS/ig17+yXQNOTpIrBL+MZLih455Bmio1K0Tdqg= Received: by 10.78.124.2 with SMTP id w2mr22278huc; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.78.143.11 with HTTP; Fri, 28 Jul 2006 21:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Fri, 28 Jul 2006 23:39:05 -0500 From: "Nikolas Britton" To: "Atom Powers" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <20060728164526.E27679@ganymede.hub.org> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org, User Freebsd Subject: Re: Gotta start somewhere ... how many of us are really out there? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:39:07 -0000 On 7/28/06, Atom Powers wrote: > On 7/28/06, User Freebsd wrote: > > > > Towards that end, as a starter, I would like to encourage everyone out > > there running 1 or more FreeBSD boxes to go to > > > > http://www.mreriksson.net/uptimes > > > > register all of your hosts, and install /usr/ports/sysutils/uptimec and > > get it running ... > > > > Heh. You won't get more than a tiny percentage of hosts that way; I > believe most of us, even those on this list (which is nowhere close to > the total user base), don't care to be listed. > > My shop runs 30+ FreeBSD hosts, and I have several more for personal > use. But of those there are maybe 2-3 that I would be ok with listing > and exactly zero that I will actually list. It's not that I don't want > to help, but I'm not going to run a process like that on a production > server. > What about sending something as simple as uname -mr? > uname -mr 6.1-STABLE i386 The only way this idea will work is if we put some code in the base system that sends something generic every few months. for example. Send 'uname -mr' to stats.freebsd.org every 3 months. It would be very easy to 'opt out', perhaps stats_enable="NO" in rc.conf. Alternatively we could make it 'opt in' at install time. The installer could add stats_enable="YES" to rc.conf when someone answers yes. The actual code to implement this is trivial, something like a few lines of shell script and a config file that lists the next send date. This config file can be checked during the monthly periodic and if needed trigger the stats script to send the anonymous data and update the next send date in the config file. If the stats script can't find a path out it should update the next send date and then die. -- BSD Podcasts @: http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/ http://freebsdforall.blogspot.com/