From owner-svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Wed Sep 14 20:57:46 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-ports-head@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 444F2BDB848; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206c::16:87]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 072011003; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:57:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A820A1CF8; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:57:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from bdrewery@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail.xzibition.com (localhost [172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625DE22E44; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:57:45 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at mail.xzibition.com Received: from mail.xzibition.com ([172.31.3.2]) by mail.xzibition.com (mail.xzibition.com [172.31.3.2]) (amavisd-new, port 10026) with LMTP id fdtgMroYkB81; Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:57:42 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: svn commit: r422160 - in head: chinese/fortune french/fortune-mod-zarathoustra misc/fortune-mod-bible misc/fortune-mod-bofh misc/fortune-mod-culmea-culmilor misc/fortune-mod-epictetus misc/fortune-... DKIM-Filter: OpenDKIM Filter v2.9.2 mail.xzibition.com C6FB522E3F To: Adam Weinberger , Antoine Brodin References: <201609141950.u8EJolO7085386@repo.freebsd.org> <857FD0DF-6ADA-48F5-B02B-81BCA7135E2C@adamw.org> Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org From: Bryan Drewery Organization: FreeBSD Message-ID: Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 13:57:38 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.11; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <857FD0DF-6ADA-48F5-B02B-81BCA7135E2C@adamw.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="RSqoXPaq0hxSQI4E4V7Uo2tIobaHG1lFU" X-BeenThere: svn-ports-head@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: SVN commit messages for the ports tree for head List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 14 Sep 2016 20:57:46 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --RSqoXPaq0hxSQI4E4V7Uo2tIobaHG1lFU Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="AofaPDSqPcOVR0sG9DxsqVaNwk2OAQiN6"; protected-headers="v1" From: Bryan Drewery To: Adam Weinberger , Antoine Brodin Cc: ports-committers@freebsd.org, svn-ports-all@freebsd.org, svn-ports-head@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r422160 - in head: chinese/fortune french/fortune-mod-zarathoustra misc/fortune-mod-bible misc/fortune-mod-bofh misc/fortune-mod-culmea-culmilor misc/fortune-mod-epictetus misc/fortune-... References: <201609141950.u8EJolO7085386@repo.freebsd.org> <857FD0DF-6ADA-48F5-B02B-81BCA7135E2C@adamw.org> In-Reply-To: <857FD0DF-6ADA-48F5-B02B-81BCA7135E2C@adamw.org> --AofaPDSqPcOVR0sG9DxsqVaNwk2OAQiN6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 9/14/16 1:45 PM, Adam Weinberger wrote: >> On 14 Sep, 2016, at 13:50, Antoine Brodin wrote:= >> >> Author: antoine >> Date: Wed Sep 14 19:50:46 2016 >> New Revision: 422160 >> URL: https://svnweb.freebsd.org/changeset/ports/422160 >> >> Log: >> Revert recent strfile changes, strfile is already in base >> >> With hat: portmgr >=20 > John's changes did have merit---not everybody has the games distributio= n > installed. >=20 You could say this about every option in base. That does not justify adding everything in base into the ports tree again. It means the user should enable that option in base if they want that functionality. We really do not need 2 versions of strfile, which has gone unchanged for a long time. Optional pieces of base being in ports make sense when they are getting frequent updates, such as Kerberos or OpenSSL or OpenSSH. If a user wants these game ports, they would want the game distribution in base as well, so they should already have strfile. The truth here seems to be closer to that this is just for DragonFly. My large vision is that we move a lot of base into "ports"/packages (not what we have today). In that case we would have just 1 version of OpenSSL, fortune, strfile, etc. In that world we move/merge most of base with their port versions. We're not anywhere near that today. Now, removing the games from base entirely and moving them to ports is a different discussion. I personally am open to that, but not duplicating everything for the sake of non-default setups without frequent updates. > Perhaps a Uses/strfile.mk would be better here? It could allow for > /usr/bin/strfile or /usr/games/strfile if they exist, or depend on the = strfile port otherwise. Best of both world and everybody wins. >=20 --=20 Regards, Bryan Drewery --AofaPDSqPcOVR0sG9DxsqVaNwk2OAQiN6-- --RSqoXPaq0hxSQI4E4V7Uo2tIobaHG1lFU Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBCgAGBQJX2bnDAAoJEDXXcbtuRpfP3SkH/2yQO0noQ9h7h4FeDXTKvZAN Czjkg7R0hDQJniZcHGE56CKquNniZBc1HZWNIMoQnmDzibyf8v07JSz8z/ZI3LdZ yoNp3yR6rGCfFuTqPUsYPmxAmnUYeO/Y8oOx6fNEo6kSD/dytq8rZQvaE+BZ52GS veZLBnL83sZZRSZUC/SvALp7B+I/FsDp4Ugmxkizfh6ICZ9u4+kqF6X5UOmJTuKL cQ2c4zWPjKiTtzAP2CkQEqzFaJEoBO1LpsYU/3sBIm16wIA+O3gBFxt3u6RNMYE7 LodyAH4VdnIvRVdyUxEeqwEayBwjj/PchJpCrV8aRPgkbBvY5mLh86YNipr3cog= =KOx4 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --RSqoXPaq0hxSQI4E4V7Uo2tIobaHG1lFU--