From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Jun 29 00:30:08 2009 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F82D10656ED for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net (qmta02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net [76.96.30.24]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 745338FC14 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:30:08 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from corky1951@comcast.net) Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA02.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9c771c0060FhH24A2cW9ei; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:30:09 +0000 Received: from comcast.net ([98.203.142.76]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 9cW71c0071f6R9u8UcW7zF; Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:30:09 +0000 Received: by comcast.net (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:30:06 -0700 Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 17:30:06 -0700 From: Charlie Kester To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: <20090629003005.GE15815@comcast.net> Mail-Followup-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <6ae50c2d0906281009n24381ad3j59125e237739ca2c@mail.gmail.com> <6ae50c2d0906281340p68b5f8ewa41095e694cf5ff8@mail.gmail.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Mutt 1.5.20 X-Composer: VIM 7.2 User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) Subject: Re: libtool shared X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2009 00:30:09 -0000 On Sun 28 Jun 2009 at 16:10:51 PDT Michael Powell wrote: >alexus wrote: > >> On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:43 PM, Michael Powell >> wrote: >>> alexus wrote: >[snip] >> >> company policy not too use ports, any other suggestions? > >Change this company policy as it is unproductive. Sounds like something >implemented by those lacking experience with FreeBSD. > >The time port maintainers have spent developing patch sets that ensure an >easy build and install is not being leveraged. The time you spend developing >your own workarounds to build software with the various autotools is more >waste, you are duplicating efforts already made by others. The amount of >time and effort you will spend when it comes time to update is effort >wasted, because now you are duplicating the efforts of others yet *again*. > >If the company policy is dictated by people who have no concept of how to >manage efficient man-hour usage, and who will not listen when others have >superior suggestions, your company has other problems besides it's lack of >knowledge concerning FreeBSD. > >-Mike If management refuses to listen to reason, you can still benefit from the efforts of the port maintainers by studying their makefiles and patches. Their stuff builds and installs correctly, or it would never have been committed into the portstree. It's probably a lot easier to understand the FreeBSD porting system than it is to understand the autotools suite. ;-)