From owner-freebsd-questions Fri Sep 13 17:33:38 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 691EA37B400 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:33:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail011.syd.optusnet.com.au (mail011.syd.optusnet.com.au [210.49.20.139]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2CA3A43E42 for ; Fri, 13 Sep 2002 17:33:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from crispin@crisweb.webcentral.com.au) Received: from [192.168.0.139] (c16424.rochd2.qld.optusnet.com.au [210.49.67.43]) by mail011.syd.optusnet.com.au (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id g8E0XNN17496; Sat, 14 Sep 2002 10:33:27 +1000 Subject: Re: Why are messages to this list appearing in *.freebsd.questions ng's? From: Crispin Bennett To: Kirk Strauser Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: <87ptvixd94.fsf@pooh.int> References: <1031910439.510.5.camel@jupiter> <87ptvixd94.fsf@pooh.int> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.0.8 Date: 14 Sep 2002 10:33:14 +1000 Message-Id: <1031963599.262.19.camel@jupiter> Mime-Version: 1.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Fri, 2002-09-13 at 22:52, Kirk Strauser wrote: > > OK, I understand your point, but this seems like a bit of overreaction. > First, *everyone* gets spam. It's just part of life. You only need one counter-example to disprove a generalisation. I'm it, therefore "everyone" does *not* get spam. I used to, until I started being extremely careful where I used my 'real' address and who I gave it to. I use many email lists, and have never had my address leak out in this way before, so didn't consider it a danger. I also consider it just a matter of politeness not to use anonymous aliases when asking people for help (which, given my neophyte level of knowledge of FreeBSD is all I'm likely to be doing here in the near future). I guess now I'm left without a choice. > Second, there *are* other options. I've > installed SpamAssassin on my mailserver, and now literally do not get more > than 1 or 2 pieces *per week* (I'd been receiving 30-40 *per day* before > that). It's something of an elitist assumption to make that everyone runs a mailserver. I don't. The great majority of Internet users don't. It's also irrelevant to the spam problem, as far as I'm concerned. If I'm filtering spam, it's already reached me over the wire. At that point, the bandwidth-theft has already occurred. There are two, and only two, solutions to this: not letting thieves have my email address in the first place, and damaging them (using law where the jurisdiction allows, elsewhere hacking and baseball bats) if they do abuse it. > > Besides, no matter what new address you get, it's in vain once a friend or > family member responds to a chain letter and Cc:'s it to you, thereby > spreading your address to everyone and their ferret. > > Face it, Crispin, you can't hide. I have up to now. I will again. > Make this a learning experience and > install SpamAssassin. I will not waste my time administering a mail server for the two people who use email on my home network. There are professionals out there who do it better than I would. Instead I'll make it a learning experience and use only temporary aliases for mailing lists, which is a shame. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message