From owner-freebsd-questions Thu Jan 10 8:32:14 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from smtp-2.enteract.com (smtp-2.enteract.com [207.229.143.4]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5DB5C37B402; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 08:32:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from jamestown.21stcentury.net (24-148-18-116.na.21stcentury.net [24.148.18.116]) by smtp-2.enteract.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7CFD97EAB; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:32:04 -0600 (CST) Received: (from jtm@localhost) by jamestown.21stcentury.net (8.11.6/8.11.3) id g0AGW2S63294; Thu, 10 Jan 2002 10:32:02 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from jtm63@enteract.com) X-Authentication-Warning: jamestown.21stcentury.net: jtm set sender to jtm63@enteract.com using -f To: Greg Lehey Cc: jacks@sage-american.com, Joe & Fhe Barbish , FBSD Questions Subject: Re: Editors in base FBSD References: <3.0.5.32.20020106095140.01937458@mail.sage-american.com> <20020107102311.G45844@wantadilla.lemis.com> From: James McNaughton Date: 10 Jan 2002 10:32:01 -0600 In-Reply-To: <20020107102311.G45844@wantadilla.lemis.com> Message-ID: <867kqqmake.fsf@jamestown.21stcentury.net> Lines: 38 User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Greg Lehey writes: > > I can't possibly think of a worse solution. I've never seen a > Microsoft-based telnet client that wasn't broken, the telnet protocol > is insecure, and I've never seen a really good editor which runs under > Microsoft. What about: GNU Emacs 20.7.1 (i386-*-nt4.0.1381) of Tue Jun 13 2000 on buffy Hmmm? ;) And PuTTY works pretty well as far as I'm concerned for telnet and ssh from M$ machines. > And now the obligatory Emacs plug. Yes, you *can* use the mouse with > Emacs. Yes, you *can* cut, copy and paste (much more easily than with > Microsoft). From time to time I have visitors here who have never > used UNIX of any flavour, but who want to read (and reply to) their > mail. I've given them Emacs to play with (under X, of course), no > instruction, and they were able to cope. On the other hand, Emacs is > much more powerful than anything I've ever seen under Microsoft > (including the Microsoft port of Emacs, available in the Cygwin > package). For editing and dired stuff I use the native NT port of emacs. Of course it can't do many things which require a Unix environment but I think it's still a powerful editor. I set it up to use the Cygwin utilities as much as possible, however I had to reinstall Cygwin recently and can't get RCS to build. I did it before...oh well. However, IIRC, the original question was about base systems editors and emacs -- as much as we love it -- is not in the base distribution. One could find the information by doing a keyword search of the man pages e.g. "man -k editor" or "apropos editor" To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message