From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 14 13:42:56 2007 Return-Path: Delivered-To: arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8AC5E16A46C for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:42:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from redbull.bpaserver.net (redbullneu.bpaserver.net [213.198.78.217]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0EB9613C4A6 for ; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:42:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from alexander@leidinger.net) Received: from outgoing.leidinger.net (p54A5780E.dip.t-dialin.net [84.165.120.14]) by redbull.bpaserver.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id C93F22E2F5; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:42:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from deskjail (deskjail.Leidinger.net [192.168.1.109]) by outgoing.leidinger.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3E875B480D; Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:41:20 +0200 (CEST) Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:40:49 +0200 From: Alexander Leidinger To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Message-ID: <20071014154049.37d84fd5@deskjail> In-Reply-To: <47121A04.9010407@quip.cz> References: <470E5BFB.4050903@elischer.org> <47109F59.30602@quip.cz> <20071014121635.5adc1f19@deskjail> <47121A04.9010407@quip.cz> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.0.1 (GTK+ 2.10.14; i686-portbld-freebsd7.0) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BPAnet-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-BPAnet-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-BPAnet-MailScanner-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (not cached, score=-14.9, required 8, BAYES_00 -15.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-BPAnet-MailScanner-From: alexander@leidinger.net X-Spam-Status: No Cc: arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kernel level virtualisation requirements. X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 13:42:56 -0000 Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> (Sun, 14 Oct 2007 15:30:44 +0200): > Alexander Leidinger wrote: > > > Quoting Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> (Sat, 13 Oct 2007 12:35:05 +0200): > >>UIDs - independent UIDs in containers. In relation to UIDs, one can use > >>disk quotas inside containers. > > > > > > Can you please clarify what you mean here? Are you talking about the > > current quota support and how it handles UIDs on the host? If your disk > > proposal above is implemented, I can imagine that the current quota > > stuff is independent from this and wouldn't need a decoupling from UIDs > > in a jail from the UIDs on the host. > > Yes I was talking about current quota support na UIDs on host. If I have > UID 1001 on host and UID 1001 in two jails on same mountpoint, current > quotas can not be used. Or am I wrong? It can be used if each jails gets it's own FS. > >>Network bandwidth - same as CPU and memory > > > > > > We have this already with dummynet and/or pf, don't we? > > OK, you are right, one can do this with dummynet or pf in simple jail > config, but with hierarchical structer, multiple IPs etc. Will it be > still usable? Maybe just implement some layer/utility to wrap around > container (jail) settings and generate proper dummynet / pf rules will > be enough. I don't know. Bye, Alexander. -- Anyone stupid enough to be caught by the police is probably guilty. http://www.Leidinger.net Alexander @ Leidinger.net: PGP ID = B0063FE7 http://www.FreeBSD.org netchild @ FreeBSD.org : PGP ID = 72077137