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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2018 23:04:30 -0000 Hi=0A=0AThis is RT1310 Target list. Some target have 32M ram.=0A=0Ahttps://= wikidevi.com/wiki/NetComm_NP740n=0A=0A=0AThanks=0A=0AHiroki Mori=0A=0A-----= Original Message -----=0A> From: Mori Hiroki =0A> T= o: Warner Losh =0A> Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" =0A> Date: 2018/7/19, Thu 07:44=0A> Subject: Re: One last i= tem: CNS1102 support removal=0A> =0A> Hi=0A> =0A> =0A> ----- Original Messa= ge -----=0A>> From: Warner Losh =0A>> To: Mori Hiroki =0A>> Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" =0A>> Date: 2018/7/19, Thu 03:01=0A>> Subject: Re: One last item: CNS1= 102 support removal=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> On Wed, Jul 18= , 2018 at 11:41 AM, Mori Hiroki =0A> wrote:=0A>> = =0A>> Hi=0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> sys/arm/ralink is work fine. Please do not rem= ove this.=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> OK. Do you have a kernel config file we can comm= it to the tree? I don't =0A> even know if it compiles, apart from your dmes= g posts. I wasn't sure based =0A> on your email, so I thought I'd ask for c= larification.=0A> =0A> This is kernel configure file.=0A> =0A> https://svnw= eb.freebsd.org/base/head/sys/arm/conf/RT1310?view=3Dmarkup=0A> =0A> =0A> dm= esg have pci log but not commit yet.=0A> =0A> Thanks=0A> =0A> Hiroki Mori= =0A> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> CNS1102 is 922T which is armv4. I couldn't even find= an eval board to =0A> try to boot it on, nor any board with more than 16MB= on the consumer gear that =0A> it's in on ebay. And it's always a pain to = get stuff on gear of that era =0A> unless you get lucky...=0A>> =A0=0A>> Wh= y do you want remove armv5t ? armv5t is still alive.=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> The n= umber of users on armv5t is declining. We're not removing it for 12 =0A> (s= ince there's several known users), but will have a discussion about that = =0A> after we branch 12 whether or not we'll keep it for 13. Since there ar= e =0A> users, we need to understand the impact of keeping the port or retir= ing it on =0A> them. Unlike these early parts where there's no known users.= ..=0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> Warner=0A>> =A0=0A>> Thanks=0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> H= iroki Mori=0A>>> =0A>>> =0A>>> ----- Original Message -----=0A>>>> From: Wa= rner Losh =0A>>>> =0A>>>> To: Mori Hiroki =0A>>>> Cc: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" =0A> = =0A>>>> Date: 2018/7/19, Thu 02:37=0A>>>> Subject: Re: One last item: CNS11= 02 support removal=0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> O= n Wed, Jul 18, 2018 at 9:37 AM, Mori Hiroki =0A> wr= ote:=0A>>>> =0A>>>> Hi.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> I make fdt eventtimer intrng to cn= s11xx.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> https://gist.github.com/ yamori813/ =0A> ae047a28a8= 25aac255e436fd8ccaf7 85=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> Still not work...=0A>>>>>= =0A>>>>> Clang is very slow on cross compile. It's take 7 hour.=0A>>>>> = =0A>>>>> My cns11xx target Planex MZK-W04G is 64MByte ram.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>> = =0A>>>> =0A>>>> OK. I could only find a board with 16MB. 64MB is barely eno= ugh these =0A> days to do useful things with FreeBSD unless you're a super = user.=0A>>>> =A0=0A>>>> It's bigger than rt1310 target.=0A>>>>> =0A>>>> =0A= >>>> =0A>>>> There's no RALINK kernel config I could find, even though the = =0A> rt1310 code is in the tree. What have I missed?=0A>>>> =A0=0A>>>> I al= most abandon...=0A>>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> So are you abandoning both = platforms? Or just CNS1102?=0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> Are you OK with removing= one or both of these platforms?=0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> Warner=0A>>>> =0A>>= >> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> Hiroki Mori=0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> =0A>>>>> ----- Orig= inal Message -----=0A>>>>>> From: Warner Losh =0A>>>>>> T= o: "freebsd-arm@freebsd.org" =0A> =0A>>>>>> Cc: = =0A>>>>>> Date: 2018/7/18, Wed 22:58=0A>>>>>> Subject: One last item: CNS= 1102 support removal=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>> T here's one last item in arm land = for 12 I'd like =0A> to remove: The Econa /=0A>>>>>> Cavium CN1102 support= .=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>> It's literally received no updates since it was =0A> = committed in 2010, apart=0A>>>>>> from others doing kernel sweeps. It's un= maintained. =0A> Strike one.=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>> Second, it will be the las= t armv4 port in the tree after I =0A> remove Atmel. We=0A>>>>>> haven't ha= d FreeBSD running on armv4 Atmel since =0A> FreeBSD 8. Strike two.=0A>>>>>>= =0A>>>>>> Third, the original machines were released in 2005 or 2006. =0A= > There's only=0A>>>>> =0A>> one known board, according to https://wikidev= i.com/wiki/ Cavium, and it =0A> came=0A>>>>>> with only 16MB. So it's old = and doesn't have much =0A> RAM. While barely=0A>>>>>> possible, in theory,= to run FreeBSD/arm in 16MB, it's a =0A> huge PITA. Strike=0A>>>>>> three.= =0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>> Forth, I can find no mention of it in the archives or = bug =0A> database. Strike=0A>>>>>> four.=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>> I'm lead to t= he conclusion that this is no longer =0A> maintained, has no users,=0A>>>>>= > the hardware it was in has insufficient resources to run =0A> FreeBSD we= ll and=0A>>>>>> these things are unlikely to change. Therefore, we should = =0A> remove it.=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>> Comments?=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>>> Warner=0A= >>>>>> ______________________________ _________________=0A>>>>>> freebsd-= arm@freebsd.org mailing list=0A>>>>>> https://lists.freebsd.org/ mailman/l= istinfo/freebsd-arm=0A>>>>>> To unsubscribe, send any mail to =0A> "freebs= d-arm-unsubscribe@ freebsd.org"=0A>>>>>> =0A>>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> =0A>>>> = =0A>> =0A>> =0A>> =0A> _______________________________________________=0A> = freebsd-arm@freebsd.org mailing list=0A> https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/= listinfo/freebsd-arm=0A> To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-arm-unsu= bscribe@freebsd.org"=0A>