From owner-freebsd-advocacy@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Oct 11 07:33:49 2003 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6B5D516A4B3 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:33:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: from essence.sdodson.com (67-50-89-87.br2.tbr.ga.frontiernet.net [67.50.89.87]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C58D743F75 for ; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 07:33:47 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from samy@kerneled.com) Received: from beastie.freebsd.local (dial37-82.sbm.net.sa [212.46.37.82]) by essence.sdodson.com (8.12.10/8.12.10) with SMTP id h9BEXpFw088956; Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:33:53 GMT (envelope-from samy@kerneled.com) Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 17:35:13 +0300 From: Samy Al Bahra To: Jonathan Message-Id: <20031011173513.7f470c0c.samy@kerneled.com> In-Reply-To: <200310110015.21004.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> References: <002801c38fb1$95e804e0$0200a8c0@sbcgolbal.net> <001601c38fb2$b4bf1c40$9801a8c0@diamond> <200310110015.21004.j.e.drews@worldnet.att.net> Organization: Kerneled X-Mailer: Sylpheed version 0.9.5-gtk2-20030906 (GTK+ 2.2.1; i386-portbld-freebsd5.1) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit cc: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A case of FreeBSD users shooting all FreeBSD users in the foot? X-BeenThere: freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: FreeBSD Evangelism List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 11 Oct 2003 14:33:49 -0000 On Sat, 11 Oct 2003 00:15:20 -0500 Jonathan wrote: > The "If you ask advice, you'll get polite versions of 'RTFM' mostly." > may very well come from the #freebsd irc channel, on freenode.net. I > have gone in there once or twice and witnessed really rude behavior. > #freebsd is an excellent reason not to use FreeBSD. I would not dare > ask a question there; I think it's run by professional (l337) sysadmin > guys who are into sadism. Give EFnet #FreeBSD a try then :) In all seriousness, the channel is run pretty fairly (meaning trolls are usually kicked off the channel), sane questions are answered. Yes, that is right, usually answered with links to documentation. The channel operators will ban or kick out a user if he repeatedly ignores these references (or is rude, etc...). I realize that any channel called #*FreeBSD* does represent a chunk of the FreeBSD user community. Freenode and its operators has taken major steps in improving the channel's friendliness (from a BOFH channel to a more friendly one)... Eithercase Jonathan, -advocacy is not the best place to discuss the way that #FreeBSD@Freenode is run. Please take it to the channel operators or FreeNode opers. -- +-----------------------------------+ | Samy Al Bahra | samy@kerneled.com | |-----------------------------------| | B3A7 F5BE B2AE 67B1 AC4B | | 0983 956D 1F4A AA54 47CB | |-----------------------------------| | http://www.kerneled.com | +-----------------------------------+