From owner-freebsd-chat Fri Jan 19 8:12:19 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from lariat.org (lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6F0537B6A0; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 08:12:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from mustang.lariat.org (IDENT:ppp0.lariat.org@lariat.org [12.23.109.2]) by lariat.org (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id JAA05881; Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:11:37 -0700 (MST) Message-Id: <4.3.2.7.2.20010119090519.00e2ff00@localhost> X-Sender: brett@localhost X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 4.3.2 Date: Fri, 19 Jan 2001 09:11:29 -0700 To: Greywolf From: Brett Glass Subject: Re: Why did NetBSD and FreeBSD diverge? Cc: Jeremy Lea , Kris Kirby , freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG, netbsd-advocacy@NetBSD.ORG In-Reply-To: References: <4.3.2.7.2.20010118232422.049b7a50@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 12:18 AM 1/19/2001, Greywolf wrote: >Beg pardon, good sirs, but is this what usually happens on the FreeBSD >lists, or is this back-and-forth merely an anomaly provided for the >amusement of the casually-included NetBSD crowd? > >When there was a statement made about "hazing", it was made to sound >as though it covered both NetBSD and FreeBSD. Observing the ping-pong >match in progress, I think I can safely say that the newbies in NetBSD >are treated with much less of a hazing than they are in FreeBSD. Why >this is, I'm not sure. I think that this is because the NetBSD crowd, overall, is far more laid back than the FreeBSD crowd. When one enters a group of FreeBSDers, there's a fairly good chance that one will bump up against one big ego or another. The probability isn't 100%; that's why you'll hear some people say, "I had no trouble" while others -- including me -- have been roundly excoriated from Day One. And there's a "pile on" phenomenon; when someone in a key position decides that a newbie is a threat and flames him or her, others will join in. This happens much less often with the NetBSD group, which is focused much more on technical excellence and hacking for the sheer joy of it than on ego and territoriality. This is the reason for NetBSD's lower profile but also for its friendliness. --Brett To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message