Date: Fri, 05 May 2006 11:49:19 -0400 From: Kurt Miller <lists@intricatesoftware.com> To: freebsd-java@freebsd.org Subject: Re: jdk15 from update5 sources Message-ID: <200605051149.19715.lists@intricatesoftware.com> In-Reply-To: <445B19DF.2090308@ebs.gr> References: <Pine.LNX.4.62.0605041437150.29744@decibel.pvv.ntnu.no> <20060504162514.GB1336@misty.eyesbeyond.com> <445B19DF.2090308@ebs.gr>
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On Friday 05 May 2006 5:24 am, Panagiotis Astithas wrote: > Greg Lewis wrote: > > One general question, since I haven't had time to compare them, why the > > JIUL rather than the JRL? Do others have comments on the differences > > between the two? > > IANAL of course, but the two licenses mainly seem to differ in the > intended use of the software. JRL-licensed software cannot be used for > commercial purposes, while JIUL-licensed software does not have such a > restriction. So, for example, if you are planning on using the software > on amd64 servers for web hosting, you can do it with JIUL only. Both > permit sharing the modified source code to other licensees of the > respective license and both claim that you are not tainted after > studying their source code. IANAL also. I agree with your assessment. Initially I was very excited about the JIUL license, but not so much after reading the FAQ on it. FAQ numbers 16 and 17 are not good. All the changes to get the 1.5 jdk running on BSD are licenced under the SCSL and FAQ 16 says: "You should not intermingle code that was obtained, modified or created under the SCSL with code that is subject to the JIUL." That pretty much stops us from migrating the port to the JIUL license. :( > > JRL: > ---- > [...] > "Research Use" means research, evaluation, or development for the > purpose of advancing knowledge, teaching, learning, or customizing the > Technology or Modifications for personal use. Research Use expressly > excludes use or distribution for direct or indirect commercial > (including strategic) gain or advantage. When the JRL first came out I had concerns the definion of "Research Use" didn't allow for personal use (unless you were specifically doing research). It looks like the definion has been broadened since the initial revision. I think it covers personal use better now. The SCSL definion says it more clearly, but I think the JRL could be safely used in place of the SCSL. I don't recall reading a prohibition on moving SCSL code to the JRL anyplace. If we switch the 1.5 port to the JRL license, we could follow the source updates released under the JRL and bring the port up to the update 5 level. > [...] > A. License Grant. Subject to the conditions contained herein, Sun > grants to You a non-exclusive, non-transferable, worldwide, and > royalty-free license to do the following for Your Research Use only: > > 1. Reproduce, create Modifications of, and use the Technology > alone, or with Modifications; > > 2. Share source code of the Technology alone, or with > Modifications, with other Licensees; and > [...] > > > JIUL: > ----- > [...] > "Internal Use" means internal use by Your employees or > agents solely within Your business or organization (a) to > support Your internal applications or (b) to support those > applications that are available to and used by Your > customers at Your place of business or on Your website. > Internal Use expressly excludes distribution of the > Technology or Modifications outside Your business or > organization. > > "Licensee" means You and any other party that has entered > into a version of this License with Sun where such License > is in effect. > [...] > A. License Grant. Subject to the conditions contained > herein, Sun grants to You a non-exclusive, non-transferable, > worldwide, and royalty-free license to do the following: (i) > reproduce, create Modifications of, and use the Technology, > either alone or with Modifications, in all cases for Your > Internal Use only; and (ii) conditioned upon Your compliance > with Section III.G, share the Technology and Your > Modifications, in source code form only, with other > Licensees for use only under their License. In the case of > (ii), You hereby grant to such Licensees the same rights in > Your Modifications as Sun grants in the Technology under > this License. > [...]
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