From owner-freebsd-hackers Wed Oct 1 02:28:01 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) id CAA01738 for hackers-outgoing; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 02:28:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: from unix.tfs.net (root@unix.tfs.net [199.79.146.60]) by hub.freebsd.org (8.8.7/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA01717 for ; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 02:27:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: from argus.tfs.net (pm3-p3.tfs.net [206.154.183.195]) by unix.tfs.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id DAA31060; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 03:26:08 -0500 Received: (from jbryant@localhost) by argus.tfs.net (8.8.7/8.8.5) id EAA03973; Wed, 1 Oct 1997 04:27:50 -0500 (CDT) From: Jim Bryant Message-Id: <199710010927.EAA03973@argus.tfs.net> Subject: Re: FreeBSD TCP stack SUX big juicy ones. In-Reply-To: from Richard Jones at "Oct 1, 97 05:29:06 pm" To: richard@a42.deep-thought.org (Richard Jones) Date: Wed, 1 Oct 1997 04:27:45 -0500 (CDT) Cc: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Reply-to: jbryant@tfs.net X-Windows: R00LZ!@# MS-Winbl0wz DR00LZ!@# X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 2.2.2-RELEASE #0: Wed Jul 9 01:01:24 CDT 1997 X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL31H (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk sorry for the "S/N ratio", occasionally we use humor to break the monotony. a commercial linux is funny. as funny as bsdi. i sent the vi -vs- emacs message to make a point, and that point was: "let's not start another holy war". sarcasm in order to make a valid point is sometimes needed in order to drive a point home. in this mailing list are probably some of the brightest minds in the world, and there will soon be an answer to the previous gentleman's questions concerning tcp/ip oddities. if we are going to be as involved with computers as we are, we must have both a finely developed sense of dark humor, as well as that of sarcasm. words to live by. "You RRRRaaaaaaaannnnnggg?" "Cocktails Lurch! Use the good hemlock!" - Gomez Addams, [my childhood hero] In reply: > Reinier Bezuidenhout writes: > > Greetings good and humble user ... > > > > > was not technical enough for the hackers@freebsd.org list and got lost > > > amongst techno-gems such as "Our *NIX is better than their *NIX" and > > > "The number of the beast is vi vi vi". Now as important as these issues are I > > It would not amaze me if you didn't get any answer with this e-mail ... > > > > well be amazed. Your reply is one more than I received with a serious > subject header. Do people here hit for all messages that don't contain > the words "linux" or "plug and play" coz my short 72 hours on the list seem > to indicate this to be so? > > > So .. sorry .. I don't have a technical answer for you, > > explaining what happens, but maybe it's the attitude of you > > TCP/IP stack that's the problem :) > > > > You are probably right, my TCP/IP stack has been more than a little ornery > of late. Me and the rest of the kernel have been talking to it regarding the > shocking attitude problem exhibited recently. The damn thing just has no > respect for authority. Anyways someone should give it a good talking to > before it starts leading to faceless DoS attacks. > > > But like I know the guys at FreeBSD ... they probably won't > > get offended by this and reply anyway :) > > Or maybe the guys at FreeBSD who can answer the question don't even read > this list coz of the low SNR. > > oh well. jim -- All opinions expressed are mine, if you | "I will not be pushed, stamped, think otherwise, then go jump into turbid | briefed, debriefed, indexed, or radioactive waters and yell WAHOO !!! | numbered!" - #1, "The Prisoner" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Inet: jbryant@tfs.net AX.25: kc5vdj@wv0t.#neks.ks.usa.noam grid: EM28PW voice: KC5VDJ - 6 & 2 Meters AM/FM/SSB, 70cm FM. http://www.tfs.net/~jbryant ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ HF/6M/2M: IC-706-MkII, 2M: HTX-212, 2M: HTX-202, 70cm: HTX-404, Packet: KPC-3+