From nobody Wed Aug 18 11:01:23 2021 X-Original-To: freebsd-jail@mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mlmmj.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1826F17659D4 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 11:02:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.adaszewski@gmail.com) Received: from mail-il1-x12a.google.com (mail-il1-x12a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::12a]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256 client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4GqQ2b70WKz3rhS for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 11:01:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from s.adaszewski@gmail.com) Received: by mail-il1-x12a.google.com with SMTP id s16so1746911ilo.9 for ; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 04:01:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=hcGTGkuKQyRxsz6Y/8qzriCDNwPKZbodB98BdKYGu9Q=; b=RWl6Ml9otEPNhEtxEBhc5SY/gC7umArMUpsOXITWvYg7wcEOZjEMxW82XnptFnuDIw Fu/2JYzcpAAkCcsFVlA822zkAbPcKZAGs2lCaYRNr5dCw4pyWgWKmC1y73UZ3uzDeqWL WSG4RhlQR3FQKXVl3l6Yu5grNOiw8YHXd8m+IuVjSowTr8mgzjHJ5C8at2zUU0Hz/byt eQkAUU6waGBxSRK0AUoJVjPf8oPkvq44AH/FLjosZ7XfwOPQZf6oo/0tThprPxsJpuGk oa9vINPKo8cQTfyW1XpqvgfREI0OsQjFWEPyC1GWzU8MRrrJ/yfmLtWTlvWUBzPpvHx2 tmUg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=hcGTGkuKQyRxsz6Y/8qzriCDNwPKZbodB98BdKYGu9Q=; b=K3RTbKWFk3Lc9Cl11CZ6UCB/QldOBUoODMNS6Ys+R1agkJxGCMrodCCVBsXcfa2d60 Nbd6k36ABPyj/D9x9Sn2HzH7nUVVoNWXG+jNQe9AstRiY99TrjbBTFmfrPqx9C8wcp1K 4/NXrxC++2T1OrN2VvNFXzAi6uYmrCUS3Z0BgTrSYvaqo1KGiOGQ4e9xiy4dovwRjdhU uASy5iWNRl8jLH5hVhAN/o7ojsZE9xnOB6nz41dAMd5MG4mVyCgnlmLPE2lSVshfy8ni B0oc34X/REb5aIXtZx6lWr+lNtkPg2IJnmS+piCzykgXE/NL6Vo0bq/2bwzLkOYcJZTa HMxw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531Umx8txrezeBVc8s31HltzbjMYbpO7cDL5tlaYszvcfVX8SHLd X79I6RP3l3PYFH6h1KZ7NQkY5/xL7v9lXK44jqKFmgf4 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzOWUjTOuYhchN22IUD3XVz2Rek88NKKt/0b5oDhOWehUms7sxyB6LcXopLuAFPnVppKkvdPB0a/i9dKld97fk= X-Received: by 2002:a92:b111:: with SMTP id t17mr5809646ilh.208.1629284519594; Wed, 18 Aug 2021 04:01:59 -0700 (PDT) List-Id: Discussion about FreeBSD jail(8) List-Archive: https://lists.freebsd.org/archives/freebsd-jail List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: Sender: owner-freebsd-jail@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7a803b4e-5c10-7939-5ea3-0a90f773b791@quip.cz> In-Reply-To: <7a803b4e-5c10-7939-5ea3-0a90f773b791@quip.cz> From: Stanislaw Adaszewski Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2021 13:01:23 +0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Focker 2.0 released To: Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> Cc: freebsd-jail@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 4GqQ2b70WKz3rhS X-Spamd-Bar: ---- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; none X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-4.00 / 15.00]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLY(-4.00)[] X-ThisMailContainsUnwantedMimeParts: N I know but this is too much reinventing the wheel to my taste. I think the entirety of Python should be left alone to manage using pip. Pip should take care of the signatures, checksums, etc. It is unrealistic to expect a port for every Python package. Is it supposed to be the case for every language which has its own package manager? R? MATLAB? Go? Julia? Rust? NodeJS? FreeBSD has enough trouble providing working WiFi drivers to be too orthodox about external package managers. Managing "close to the metal" packages and generally packages for languages not having a dedicated package manager is the best approach. I cannot tell FreeBSD users what to do but I decided not to support this. I hope other advantages of the software will convince them to try it. Especially when the "Infrastructure as Code" bit starts appearing hopefully next year. Sorry for the inconvenience. Kind regards, -- Stanislaw On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 at 12:47, Miroslav Lachman <000.fbsd@quip.cz> wrote: > > On 18/08/2021 12:04, Stanislaw Adaszewski wrote: > > Hi Miroslav, > > > > Thanks. For me it is really useful. Ever since I developed it, I started > > deploying jails like crazy. > > > > In the v1 branch there is an old port, looking for a maintainer I guess. > > For the moment, the only official way of installing is: > > > > pip install git+https://github.com/sadaszewski/focker.git > > > > It is not too bad to be honest. I cannot support anything more at this time > > - apologies for the inconvenience. > > I understand. But I think providing an official port for FreeBSD will > give you a more audience, more testers etc. > > Miroslav Lachman