From owner-freebsd-questions Tue Jun 25 21:29:33 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from www.technaholics.com (12-218-133-12.client.mchsi.com [12.218.133.12]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49ACB37B406 for ; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 21:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: from SPGCALBERTA ([10.15.1.21]) by www.technaholics.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id g5Q4Sir06871; Tue, 25 Jun 2002 23:28:45 -0500 (CDT) (envelope-from chadalbert@mchsi.com) Message-ID: <005c01c21cc9$f7788470$15010f0a@SPGCALBERTA> From: "Chad Albert" To: "Eric F Crist" , "'Peter Leftwich'" , "'Sanjay Bhattacharya'" Cc: "'FreeBSD LIST'" References: <002501c21cc6$4502f800$6501a8c0@armageddon> Subject: Re: Long live The Penguin!!!! [ipfw vs Linux] Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 23:28:43 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG I would have to agree with you. IPFW is the reason I learned FreeBSD. IPFW is fairly straight forward to me. However, I find that whenever someone says ANY system is no good in general or it crashes a lot (his reference to windows), the reason is normally their own inability to properly set it up. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eric F Crist" To: "'Peter Leftwich'" ; "'Sanjay Bhattacharya'" Cc: "'FreeBSD LIST'" Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 11:02 PM Subject: RE: Long live The Penguin!!!! [ipfw vs Linux] > I personally have not had any problems with ipfw. The amount of > features and capabilities is what makes it so complicated. Granted, it > could be a little easier to understand. It's worked for me and I, > personally, don't have a problem understanding the configuration and use > of it. It actually resembles the firewalling capabilities of Cisco's > IOS. > > Eric F Crist > President/Sys Admin > AdTech Integrated Systems, Inc > http://www.adtechintegrated.com > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG] On Behalf Of Peter Leftwich > Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 10:19 PM > To: Sanjay Bhattacharya > Cc: FreeBSD LIST > Subject: Re: Long live The Penguin!!!! [ipfw vs Linux] > > On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Sanjay Bhattacharya wrote: > > Please guys (the anti Penguin lobby), relax. I've been making my bread > and > > butter out of Linux for the last 3 years. And I am a Sun Certified > System > > Administrator. Still I've chosen my work field to be Linux. Why? > Because I > > am in love with the penguin. As for me I haven't found anything that's > > drastically wrong as it always happens with Winblows. On the contrary > there > > are revolutionary changes in 2.4 series kernels. One that has made my > life a > > lot easier is certianly netfilter/iptables. And as for the libc > problem, a > > little caution always saved my from big hassles. I am sort of a newbie > to > > FreeBSD. But one thing I dislike about it is ipfw. Its so complicated. > In > > contrast iptables in Linux is a pleasure to use. Apart from that > upgrading > > Linux kernel is an easy task. I always patch my kernel with the latest > > updates and then I compile it. It runs like a dream. And believe me, I > > haven't faced a single problem in the last three years. But one thing > I > > always avoid is rpm's. You might call me an old timer but I've my > faith on > > the sources. And the configure/make/make install/ has always given me > what I > > wanted. And to say nothing of the device recognition capabilities of > the > > Linux kernel. I thank my lucky stars again and again that I don't have > to > > bother about the HCL, thanks to Linux. So I think the Penguin is doing > a > > great job. And under no circumstances it is inferior to the daemon. I > want > > to conclude with the slogan ..."In Penguin I trust". > > rgds, > > Sanjay > > Sanjay, I'm not really aware of an "Anti-Penguin lobby" herein, nor am I > understanding of your motives in posting here. Is there a question in > all > that poorly-worded and grammatically-challenged drivel? :) j/k > > [And yeah! *sighs* ipfw is a bee-yatsch isn't it?! Kept me away from > it.] > > -- > Peter Leftwich > President & Founder > Video2Video Services > Box 13692, La Jolla, CA, 92039 USA > +1-413-403-9555 > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.372 / Virus Database: 207 - Release Date: 6/20/2002 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message