From owner-freebsd-chat Wed Jul 28 16:17:13 1999 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from smtp04.primenet.com (smtp04.primenet.com [206.165.6.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9AFE515557 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:17:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert@usr06.primenet.com) Received: (from daemon@localhost) by smtp04.primenet.com (8.8.8/8.8.8) id QAA02549; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:16:28 -0700 (MST) Received: from usr06.primenet.com(206.165.6.206) via SMTP by smtp04.primenet.com, id smtpd002505; Wed Jul 28 16:16:15 1999 Received: (from tlambert@localhost) by usr06.primenet.com (8.8.5/8.8.5) id QAA18018; Wed, 28 Jul 1999 16:16:13 -0700 (MST) From: Terry Lambert Message-Id: <199907282316.QAA18018@usr06.primenet.com> Subject: Re: What to tell to Linux-centric people?! To: crh@outpost.co.nz Date: Wed, 28 Jul 1999 23:16:13 +0000 (GMT) Cc: chat@freebsd.org, tlambert@primenet.com In-Reply-To: <199907280512.WAA16356@smtp02.primenet.com> from "Craig Harding" at Jul 28, 99 04:57:51 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL25] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Speaking for myself, it's because people who don't know better > > depend upon its features, rendering shell scripts non-portable. > > > > In order to run these scripts, you have to install bash. > > > > In order to do that, you have to run "configure". > > > > In order to do that, you have to install GNU "make". > > You must be doing it the hard way, Terry. I usually find: > > $ cd /usr/ports/shells/bash2 > $ make install > > works fine. I tried this on my HP340, but it stopped me cold at the "cd". Funny enough, the same thing happened on my Solaris, SunOS 4.1, and AIX (PPC) boxes, too. Too bad I can't install (standard) FreeBSD on any of these. And I tried rerunning the shell script under all the other shells on the box, but it failed for lack of bash "extensions". My conclusion? "Standard plus extensions" is the same thing as "non-standard". I guess whoever wrote bash never had to deal with NDS being "Standard X.500 plus Novell extensions" or the Novell print model being "Palladium plus Novell extensions". Morons who add extensions, and then turn them on by default, are the bane of interoperability everywhere. Terry Lambert terry@lambert.org --- Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present or previous employers. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message