From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Fri May 4 14:55:42 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6BCC51065675 for ; Fri, 4 May 2012 14:55:32 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [89.206.35.99]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE628FC0C for ; Fri, 4 May 2012 14:55:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q44EtUWG006494; Fri, 4 May 2012 16:55:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Received: from localhost (wojtek@localhost) by wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl (8.14.5/8.14.5/Submit) with ESMTP id q44EtUvQ006491; Fri, 4 May 2012 16:55:30 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wojtek@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl) Date: Fri, 4 May 2012 16:55:30 +0200 (CEST) From: Wojciech Puchar To: c.hutchinson0@yahoo.com In-Reply-To: <20120501070414.450ff252@virus.local> Message-ID: References: <092518C9B5214244805F7D2022A4F663@multiplay.co.uk> <1168656383.74335.1335567528359.JavaMail.root@erie.cs.uoguelph.ca> <5E0882E0-405F-46AC-9290-8A195FECD2F4@gmail.com> <74720B93-61ED-4CA4-88C1-173356742F3A@gmail.com> <20120501070414.450ff252@virus.local> User-Agent: Alpine 2.00 (BSF 1167 2008-08-23) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender passed SPF test, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.2.7 (wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl [127.0.0.1]); Fri, 04 May 2012 16:55:30 +0200 (CEST) Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" Subject: Re: Ways to promote FreeBSD? X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 May 2012 14:55:42 -0000 > > I think "The power to serve", pretty much sums it up nicely. :-) that simple. While whom/what it serve it depends. But it have to serve someone needs. Contrary to "computer owner" being a server for someone else needs :) >>> now. >> > While I know this probably seems pointless, based on your > observation(s). I can't help but wonder if initiating a > "BSD awareness day", might not be a bad idea. I can see when i started to use unix systems in 1996 in poland internet was a rare thing. And i only knew linux copied from someone - i was not aware of *BSD in spite it was superior. Linux was mentioned very often in computer newspapers. *BSD - not at all. then i got too dependent from linux but finally removed it altogether - not because FreeBSD was promoted harder but because i knew about it's existence AT ALL and because i found it - by testing and using - to be far better than linux. Since most people today have internet connectivity, i don't think any special work is needed. People that use overadvertised linux for real, and want performance will try other systems quickly. I even think too much advertisement is done today. For example - "desktop environments" are overadvertised, both they are not useful for real work and are not a special feature of FreeBSD, just like over 10000 programs that are available in /usr/ports I don't really understand why new FreeBSD version is advertised, they say that there is some version of kde, and gnome? They are NOT A PART OF FREEBSD. Or if you think they are, then why not just do attach whole /usr/ports/INDEX-8 file to the advertisement? ZFS is overadvertised but fortunately UFS is still default. UFS is great feature of FreeBSD, it basically never fails, and performance (when configured properly) is really great. Actually FreeBSD is already very well known where performance and quality counts. And it is incorporated in a lot of devices/market solutions/services. Linux is everywhere in commodity gadgets as performance and quality is not important, only to sell as much as possible and forget.