From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Mar 25 15:28:46 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9D79916A401 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:28:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from ezekiel.daleco.biz (southernuniform.com [66.76.92.18]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39AF943D48 for ; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:28:46 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from [192.168.2.2] ([69.27.149.254]) by ezekiel.daleco.biz (8.13.4/8.13.1) with ESMTP id k2PFQU3S096980; Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:26:50 -0600 (CST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Message-ID: <4425611B.8030506@daleco.biz> Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 09:26:19 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060127 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: beni.brinckman@dommel.be, Tim Stevens References: <20060325160217.squjojr5uy2ogg0c@webmail.dommel.be> In-Reply-To: <20060325160217.squjojr5uy2ogg0c@webmail.dommel.be> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Not an easy install X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Mar 2006 15:28:46 -0000 beni.brinckman@dommel.be wrote: >>Why couldn't you guys make a install easy instead of this and that, ok I >>am a newbie and it should be easy, I have installed Ubuntu, it was like >>a dream, smooth as silk, Fedora pretty much the same FreeBSD, its a >>nitemare if you have never done it, I am now reloading windows and then >>putting back Ubuntu, unless someone over there can make it simple even >>for me. >> >> >>Tim Stevens >> >> > >It won't happen. The standard answer you will get here is "we don't care about >fancy installers, as long as it's working great" or "if you want it, do it >yourself". > >But I suggest that you take a look at pc-bsd (http://www.pcbsd.org/). It is bsd >with a nice and easy installer and a good system for installing programs. > > Installer, yes. "good system for installing programs" ... some would differ. Ease of use isn't the only thing that FreeBSD ports offers, and I'm not sure that PCBSD has that figured out; obviously, that's open for discussion. Seems to me, and some others, that PCBSD's implementation of 3rd party software may get its users in the same sort of "libc hell" that many Linux users find themselves in someplace down the road. And, incidentally, Tim, judging an OS by its installer is about as useful as judging women by their appearance. There's more to it than that. ;-) KDK -- If your aim in life is nothing; you can't miss.