From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Sep 24 00:06:12 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-current@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D34316A4CE for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 00:06:12 +0000 (GMT) Received: from bsd.ultra-secure.de (bsd.ultra-secure.de [62.146.20.26]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 713D643D45 for ; Fri, 24 Sep 2004 00:06:11 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from rainer@ultra-secure.de) Received: (qmail 32527 invoked by uid 1005); 24 Sep 2004 00:06:10 -0000 Received: from rainer@ultra-secure.de by bsd.ultra-secure.de by uid 89 with qmail-scanner-1.22 Clear:RC:1(217.232.250.213):. Processed in 0.871899 secs); 24 Sep 2004 00:06:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO ?192.168.1.224?) (rainer@ultra-secure.de@217.232.250.213) by bsd.ultra-secure.de with (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 24 Sep 2004 00:06:09 -0000 From: Rainer Duffner To: current@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: <20040922111841.GA9943@aoi.wolfpond.org> <20040923175117.41f013c5.benlutz@datacomm.ch> Content-Type: text/plain Message-Id: <1095984360.12570.32.camel@linux-mobile.example.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.4.6 Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 02:06:01 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: Plans for after FreeBSD-5.3-RELEASE. X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 00:06:12 -0000 Am Fr, den 24.09.2004 schrieb Jose M Rodriguez um 1:38: > On Thu, 23 Sep 2004 17:51:17 +0200, Benjamin Lutz > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > >> Our ask is about comments, notes and approvals to: > >> ... > >> - patchs against xorg-clients (and sim) to move xinit/xdm config to > >> /etc/X11 > > > > Hm... I really like FreeBSD's way of keeping / as clean as possible, only > > adding 3rd party files to /usr/X11R6 an /usr/local. What about > > /usr/X11R6/etc? Btw, this is one area where I think it's a bad idea to > > emulate Linux, most Linux's /etc dirs are a mess. > > > > I must disagree with this. > > A port must install from tarball under his ${PREFIX}. > If it have anything else to do, it must use pkg-install. > But it may obey config out of ${PREFIX} > In fact, several ports obey config out of ${PREFIX} via rc-subr. That's true. I'd also like to know why that was implemented this way. > The use of ${PREFIX}/etc as the only point of control may get > you more problems that expected: > > - You can't share ${PREFIX} among machines with differents setups. Indeed you can't. But last time I did this (admittedly, this was when 3.x was stable...), you just had to have different configurations on the server and use different automounter-configs on the client. That way, the client always got the right configuration, provided the amd-config was right in the first place. If you have a *local* XF86Config, you just shift the problem (can't share) from the server to the client. It becomes a distribution-problem. > - You get a very sparse config system. Not really, /etc, /usr/local/etc and /usr/X11R6/etc. > + Most difficult to secure. > + Most difficult to automate. I can't see why. One is more difficult to automate than the other. cheers, Rainer -- =================================================== ~ Rainer Duffner - rainer@ultra-secure.de ~ ~ Freising - Munich - Germany ~ ~ Unix - Linux - BSD - OpenSource - Security ~ ~ http://www.ultra-secure.de/~rainer/pubkey.pgp ~ ===================================================