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Date:      Sun, 29 Dec 1996 21:15:39 -0500 (EST)
From:      Keith Bostic <bostic@bsdi.com>
To:        davidn@sdev.usn.blaze.net.au
Cc:        hackers@freebsd.org, jkh@time.cdrom.com, kimc@w8hd.org
Subject:   Re: David Nugent: Re: vi edit mode unstable -termcap ?
Message-ID:  <199612300215.VAA23937@mongoose.bostic.com>

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> From: davidn@sdev.usn.blaze.net.au (David Nugent)
>
> Kim Culhan writes:
>> I have had this problem here for some time, searched for the cause today
>> and cannot find it.
>> 
>> On two -current machines here, when using an xterm and telnet to the other
>> machine, when using the arrow-keys to move around the screen, vi will
>> switch to the insert mode and deposit characters into the editor.
>> 
>> For example if I hit the down-arrow key a few times, after about
>> 3 or 4 arrow-down, it will begin to put 'B' into the editor.
>
> Yes, this is really VERY annoying. I have the same problem with
> any network connections, even across 10mb ethernet, which is just
> plain crazy. The workaround (and it IS only a workaround!) is to
> put set escapetime=10 into ~/.exrc.

Actually, it's not a workaround, that's exactly what it's intended
for!  ;-}

> Could the maintainer of nvi PLEASE use a more reasonable default
> value for escapetime? This is problematic even editing in an xterm
> locally on a system running under a reasonable load.

I'm happy to make the change, I do very little remote editing,
so I just don't see the problem.  What's a good value to use?

>> On a third machine running 2.2-current from 9-15 I can telnet to it
>> from either of the other machines and it will not do this.
>
> This started with the recent vendor import of the new version
> of nvi. "split" disappeared too. :-(

Actually, split was replaced.  You can now capitalize most
(all?) of the standard operations and they'll happen in a split
screen.  So, E[dit], T[ag], N[ext], P[rev] etc. all work in a
split screen.  (It's all documented in the reference guide, too,
if you want further information.)

--keith




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