From owner-freebsd-arch Sun Mar 18 9:16:43 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [209.152.133.57]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C7EB537B718 for ; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:16:40 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.3/8.11.1) id f2IHGX699051; Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:16:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2001 09:16:33 -0800 From: "David O'Brien" To: Alfred Perlstein Cc: arch@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: NO MORE '-BETA' Message-ID: <20010318091633.B98788@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: arch@FreeBSD.ORG References: <20010316134349.K29888@fw.wintelcom.net> <20010316163748Z.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <20010316164457.A57253@hub.freebsd.org> <20010316170000.R29888@fw.wintelcom.net> <20010316174303.A9267@dragon.nuxi.com> <20010317105624.A29888@fw.wintelcom.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010317105624.A29888@fw.wintelcom.net>; from bright@wintelcom.net on Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 10:56:24AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG On Sat, Mar 17, 2001 at 10:56:24AM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > * David O'Brien [010316 17:43] wrote: > > On Fri, Mar 16, 2001 at 05:00:00PM -0800, Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > > Or teach the ports committers the way to bump newver.sh themselves. > > > A minor step that should be trivial for them to do. > > > > That is an inappropriate response, from someone that hacks their kernel > > daily. > > I'm not sure what you mean. I mean your responce of telling ports maintainers to hack their kernel sources (admittedly a small hack), may be out of the scope of what they care to do. How does CVSup in checkout mode handle local mods? > This whole -BETA topic is about us getting so removed from the > users that we don't realize when we do evil things to them. You mean about our non-RELEASE RELENG_4 users getting so removed from us, they read email lists, FAQs, or pay any attention to how things work here. ;-) -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) GNU is Not Unix / Linux Is Not UniX To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message