From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Nov 15 14:51:18 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5D0D106566B for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:51:18 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from aryeh.friedman@gmail.com) Received: from mail-gw0-f54.google.com (mail-gw0-f54.google.com [74.125.83.54]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EA358FC13 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:51:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: by gwj20 with SMTP id 20so2664257gwj.13 for ; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:51:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:mime-version:received:received:in-reply-to :references:date:message-id:subject:from:to:content-type; bh=VVEPHZeIDu8D8gtpFztkle+1nHCtMvJEJ4LJt6nCq7A=; b=eEA5+VPvMPv9KaDjjhs6FnnU2u+v/TG/JFFlzE1ZvjdXJDYewBoAkhkU52zgUcj2WJ s2oHwtL58IKoL78Wam5VzEDjEvIFKSso5KkYieCTnsaCeIHAl+ebak9EZK/fhwba40pp dCUVN8tX2dZ2QdwhqfGJwGTWidCRbRfEcA1Lc= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; b=nMDmdBFj/lUfmx2wK0LHDd9blJgpPhLc6+dhs+C/QTwLWdWEycSq5t2F0zW0yxR8mT zcGgn6m0iiveaSYmGHUKQKWkwjj+qrs/S2Gp0g17Zch6XpqD/y51OM358F7NhXq8zerp vHHiZhjl2sH73EafhDgL6Hy7PGkPh/SQWgAOA= MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.150.181.5 with SMTP id d5mr4153645ybf.300.1289832677738; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:51:17 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.236.62.74 with HTTP; Mon, 15 Nov 2010 06:51:17 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <350357563-1289691142-cardhu_decombobulator_blackberry.rim.net-189470517-@bda115.bisx.prod.on.blackberry> Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 09:51:17 -0500 Message-ID: From: Aryeh Friedman To: dalescott@shaw.ca, FreeBSD Mailing List , fsb@thefsb.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cc: Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 15 Nov 2010 14:51:18 -0000 oops should of said the main disadvantage is it is not FreeBSD On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:49 AM, Aryeh Friedman wrote: > For us it is mostly cost but the other advantage (with RS at least) is > you can size the "hardware" to fit your needs and not get any more > then you need... for example when we first started our consulting firm > back in July we bought 256MB of RAM (RS sizes the Disk, CPU, > Bandwidth, etc. as a multiple of RAM) and then moved to 512MB in Sept. > and except for the 10 mins it took for RS to transfer our server image > from a 1U VM to a 2U VM (1U = 256MB/RAM) the move was completely > painless and no time and effort was needed to update the OS, 3rd party > apps, our custom made code, etc.... > > Like I said early the only downside of using RS as our primary server > provider (even though we use it for internal development only [but > since each of the 3 partners lives in a different part of the US it is > much cheaper and easier then having it in one of our houses because > none of our ISP's allow static IP's for non-business users which is > twice the cost almost]) > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Tom Worster > Date: Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 9:34 AM > Subject: Re: FreeBSD on Rackspace Could > To: dalescott@shaw.ca > Cc: FreeBSD > > > On 11/13/10 6:32 PM, "dalescott@shaw.ca" wrote: > >>> but dedicated/vps does not offer what cloud computing does. >> >>What do feel are the advantages of the cloud? > > i haven't used one yet but, as far as i can tell, the interesting > differences derive from how the could platform implements network, storage > and compute elements in a distributed hardware system meshed up with a > mesh interconnect (presumably of the high-performance computing type). > > the resulting advantages for me: the storage arrays are raid 10 and all > their responsibility not mine; shared file systems are part of the > platform so i don't need to mess around with nfs; load balancing (which i > currently can't afford) is part of the network platform; so is the address > juggling needed for high availability (failover and restoration); and the > price for each vm seems to allow me maybe 2 or 3x as many hosts as i get > with dedicated servers so i can separate the db servers from the rest of > the app and assign no more memory than i need to each vm. > > in summary, it seems i can get the high-availability, load-sharing > architecture i want at a price that's beyond my budget with dedicated > hosts. > > and it looks like there's a bunch of other nice aspects that aren't > radical but will be time savers: backups, standby images, simpler sysadmin > (there's a lot less to a cloud server "slice" than a whole computer), > monitoring, persistence. > > does this begin to answer your question? > > > this weekend i tried out gentoo on a wee celeron box i have. (someone here > said gentoo was the linux most like freebsd and rackspace cloud offers > it). it's the first linux experience i've had in which i didn't feel like > a clumsy incompetent. the similarities and differences relative to freebsd > are interesting. maybe i'll write up my initial impressions. > > > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >