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Frank Mayhar <frank@exit.com> writes:
> Scott Long wrote:
> >   Disable the beastie menu.  It offends some and annoys everyone
> >   else, and I'm frankly tired of the controversy.  When people ask
> >   me why FreeBSD isn't user- friendly, I'll tell them that I tried.
> >   RIP.
> Dammit, Scott, some of us would have liked to keep it, seeing as how
> we consider those offended and/or annoyed to be not worth our
> attention.

You are making unwarranted assumptions about why people object to the
menu.

I would like to see it come back, but without the fancy frames, escape
sequences and ascii art.  Just one line per option, and instructions.
The Escape key (instead of 6) should drop you to the loader prompt.

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